1 man kills 4 mounties?!
05-Mar-2005, 12:52 AM
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in replay to Bruce fee,
what a Police officer does in his own time is his business.
once u put on the uniform thats where u set the example of right and wrong, just llike if u worked in a factory or not.... im sure u dont wear work clothes to go clubbing???
i thnk its tragic thing that this happened to these young officers.
p.s Bbarbulo..... check my Sig, doode u got it good by RPJEEPTHING!
what a Police officer does in his own time is his business.
once u put on the uniform thats where u set the example of right and wrong, just llike if u worked in a factory or not.... im sure u dont wear work clothes to go clubbing???
i thnk its tragic thing that this happened to these young officers.
p.s Bbarbulo..... check my Sig, doode u got it good by RPJEEPTHING!
05-Mar-2005, 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by n1_taboo
ya and thats y he makes 75k a year for doing nothing....its called risk pay......u choose what u do, if he wants to be save tell him to work for mcDs...
ya and thats y he makes 75k a year for doing nothing....its called risk pay......u choose what u do, if he wants to be save tell him to work for mcDs...
Obviously, McDonald's will be calling you soon for a position.
English isnt a prerequisite, but at least you'll be "save" there.
05-Mar-2005, 01:10 AM
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A lot of you guys should learn to spell first before even posting.
No matter what you say, if you spell something wrong, and even worse if it's something simple, anything you're trying to say, will just make you and your comment stupid =) This goes for a few people in this thread.
For those who think cops have it easy, got it good, or have good pay, think again. Besides they're keepin' the place safer for you guys.
Newsflash, guess where some of the tax money goes to?
No matter what you say, if you spell something wrong, and even worse if it's something simple, anything you're trying to say, will just make you and your comment stupid =) This goes for a few people in this thread.
For those who think cops have it easy, got it good, or have good pay, think again. Besides they're keepin' the place safer for you guys.
Newsflash, guess where some of the tax money goes to?
05-Mar-2005, 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
I personally think even I'm unfit for firearms bacause of my short fuse. this way I can just think it over passively/intellectually rather than taking matters into my own hands if I had a peice.
I personally think even I'm unfit for firearms bacause of my short fuse. this way I can just think it over passively/intellectually rather than taking matters into my own hands if I had a peice.
Sorta contradicting about having a short fuse, but being able to be passive and intellectual.
05-Mar-2005, 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by PunkInDrublic
police as a whole is a system that doesn't work... it does make money, does that quite well. but as far as public safety not so much.
police as a whole is a system that doesn't work... it does make money, does that quite well. but as far as public safety not so much.
people are running red lights, banks are being robbed daily...
they're definitely not doing their job.
you got a good eye and a real pulse on the city and the "police system"
06-Mar-2005, 04:12 PM
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from a thread that started out as a "WTF" to a man killing 4mounties damn...
i do not think that the comment made about "its a risky job" is offensive b/c its the truth. i mean... being a cop is a risky job hence the pay benefits (which someone already mentioned) and tim hortons benefits (.. everyone needs to eat)...
but seriously like, it is a job... and they're are risks involved. it is sad that they were killed but i mean, its a risk.
those of you also go on to say that all drug dealers are bad and evil... thats so hypocritical to say that all drug dealers are bad when you dont even know all drug dealers then saying "they use drugs, thats why they defend them". i dont use drugs yet i dont sit here and think "all drug dealers are bad". if we are going on the assumption that all drug dealers are bad, lets also assume that all cops are bad as well... i mean it wasnt even a year ago when 2 cops pulled over this brown guy driving a mercedez for the fact that he was simply driving a mercedes... i never knew that was a crime. and then there was that time when the cop shot a black guy for pulling his wallet out at the bank.. oh wait i forgot, all black guys got guns, then you have the cops that sexually assault girls during the strip searches...
and you think these guys are heros?
before you make a judgement on something and start stereotyping, make sure you arent biased (ie: my dads a cop so they all must be good) and that you know what your talking about
i do not think that the comment made about "its a risky job" is offensive b/c its the truth. i mean... being a cop is a risky job hence the pay benefits (which someone already mentioned) and tim hortons benefits (.. everyone needs to eat)...
but seriously like, it is a job... and they're are risks involved. it is sad that they were killed but i mean, its a risk.
those of you also go on to say that all drug dealers are bad and evil... thats so hypocritical to say that all drug dealers are bad when you dont even know all drug dealers then saying "they use drugs, thats why they defend them". i dont use drugs yet i dont sit here and think "all drug dealers are bad". if we are going on the assumption that all drug dealers are bad, lets also assume that all cops are bad as well... i mean it wasnt even a year ago when 2 cops pulled over this brown guy driving a mercedez for the fact that he was simply driving a mercedes... i never knew that was a crime. and then there was that time when the cop shot a black guy for pulling his wallet out at the bank.. oh wait i forgot, all black guys got guns, then you have the cops that sexually assault girls during the strip searches...
and you think these guys are heros?
before you make a judgement on something and start stereotyping, make sure you arent biased (ie: my dads a cop so they all must be good) and that you know what your talking about
06-Mar-2005, 06:09 PM
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Vik, the only thing i have to say is...
The reason you hear about the stuff you mentioned is because it makes good news and great ratings, that's it.
Bad news sells, good news doesn't.
You don't know the behind the scenes action of the police.
Also about the guy driving a Mercedez, what was your source of information? the news? <---enough said.
Cop shooting a guy pulling out a wallet, let's see, maybe the cop gave him a warning, the guy was reaching for something, tense situation, cop figures, im wearing the uniform, I'm a visible authority, I don't know who this guy is or what's he's going to pull out.
Cops assaulting girls during strip searches?
Link it, back it up.
The reason you hear about the stuff you mentioned is because it makes good news and great ratings, that's it.
Bad news sells, good news doesn't.
You don't know the behind the scenes action of the police.
Also about the guy driving a Mercedez, what was your source of information? the news? <---enough said.
Cop shooting a guy pulling out a wallet, let's see, maybe the cop gave him a warning, the guy was reaching for something, tense situation, cop figures, im wearing the uniform, I'm a visible authority, I don't know who this guy is or what's he's going to pull out.
Cops assaulting girls during strip searches?
Link it, back it up.
06-Mar-2005, 06:20 PM
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Like or it not those mounties had families and were people too. Wether they chose their jobs with knowing death was a factor or whatever, it is a tragic thing. They were all rookies which is the sad part. One officers wife is expecting their second child and he is dead. The other guy just got into the force Feb14th and proposed to his girlfriend that day because of it. Engaged to be married, First day on the job he gets sent to this grow op or whatever and dies. The job is risky yes but never the less, a sad incident. For people to say "too bad its their fault" is just ignorance. We may be ourselves and our immediate family in a sea of 6 billion people yes, but wait til something happens to someone in your close family then watch me say "too bad for you". It's bound to happen someday and mouring is a natural process. Ignorance sickens me... especially in this form.
06-Mar-2005, 07:02 PM
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i cant find the posting on the other teo things i stated but they all did occur.
here is the one about the brown guy getting pulled over in the benz:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew..._name=&no_ads=
as to your claims, i agree with you 100% that the news is biased and we usually do hear only about good/bad incidences...
the opposite to that is: how many times do you think the cops have screwd people over abusing there power and it has gone unreported? alot of those people who are mistreated by cops arent going to tell anyone... who can they tell? its them VS the cops? understand what im getting at?
sure the news does only report stories that are big or will sway their ratings but in that, implicitly its stated that not all news makes it too the news... and to add to that, when you have someone with power mistreating you... its often not reported...
for proof on this: look at workplace harrassment, church sexual exploitations and even child abuse.
as for not feeling bad for them, i never said that i never felt bad for them nor did alot of people if you read carefully... sure i feel sorrow for them.. they died... they have a family... who wouldnt. but it is a part of their job. its a risk they take.
here is the one about the brown guy getting pulled over in the benz:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew..._name=&no_ads=
as to your claims, i agree with you 100% that the news is biased and we usually do hear only about good/bad incidences...
the opposite to that is: how many times do you think the cops have screwd people over abusing there power and it has gone unreported? alot of those people who are mistreated by cops arent going to tell anyone... who can they tell? its them VS the cops? understand what im getting at?
sure the news does only report stories that are big or will sway their ratings but in that, implicitly its stated that not all news makes it too the news... and to add to that, when you have someone with power mistreating you... its often not reported...
for proof on this: look at workplace harrassment, church sexual exploitations and even child abuse.
as for not feeling bad for them, i never said that i never felt bad for them nor did alot of people if you read carefully... sure i feel sorrow for them.. they died... they have a family... who wouldnt. but it is a part of their job. its a risk they take.
06-Mar-2005, 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by VikJae
as for not feeling bad for them, i never said that i never felt bad for them nor did alot of people if you read carefully... sure i feel sorrow for them.. they died... they have a family... who wouldnt.
as for not feeling bad for them, i never said that i never felt bad for them nor did alot of people if you read carefully... sure i feel sorrow for them.. they died... they have a family... who wouldnt.
07-Mar-2005, 03:00 AM
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We're all getting off base here..The question should be WHY this happened.
Facts:
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1) the man was very well known to the police as a violent individual who has access to weapons and has used them on occasion.
2) The perp was known to listen to police scanner for any type of activity.
3) The intelligence on the perp was damn fawkin poor - they assumed that he was away from his farm at the time. Man - there is a grow op going on - of course someone is going to be there...
4) They should never have gone there with less than 8 personel, especially when they know he's armed. They were outgunned (AK-47 vs police service revolver or shotgun..) AK-47 has superior range and fire power (fawk - any rifle for that matter) - combined with a scope - those guys were just easy targets.
These RCMP officers were just not ready for this type of scenario - it's not like it's a domestic violence scene. I feel for them as most rural RCMP officers have minimal resources at their disposal. I feel the chain of command really dropped the ball on this one. This was a high risk takedown period.
Facts:
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1) the man was very well known to the police as a violent individual who has access to weapons and has used them on occasion.
2) The perp was known to listen to police scanner for any type of activity.
3) The intelligence on the perp was damn fawkin poor - they assumed that he was away from his farm at the time. Man - there is a grow op going on - of course someone is going to be there...
4) They should never have gone there with less than 8 personel, especially when they know he's armed. They were outgunned (AK-47 vs police service revolver or shotgun..) AK-47 has superior range and fire power (fawk - any rifle for that matter) - combined with a scope - those guys were just easy targets.
These RCMP officers were just not ready for this type of scenario - it's not like it's a domestic violence scene. I feel for them as most rural RCMP officers have minimal resources at their disposal. I feel the chain of command really dropped the ball on this one. This was a high risk takedown period.
07-Mar-2005, 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by VikJae
i cant find the posting on the other teo things i stated but they all did occur.
here is the one about the brown guy getting pulled over in the benz:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew..._name=&no_ads=
as to your claims, i agree with you 100% that the news is biased and we usually do hear only about good/bad incidences...
the opposite to that is: how many times do you think the cops have screwd people over abusing there power and it has gone unreported? alot of those people who are mistreated by cops arent going to tell anyone... who can they tell? its them VS the cops? understand what im getting at?
sure the news does only report stories that are big or will sway their ratings but in that, implicitly its stated that not all news makes it too the news... and to add to that, when you have someone with power mistreating you... its often not reported...
for proof on this: look at workplace harrassment, church sexual exploitations and even child abuse.
as for not feeling bad for them, i never said that i never felt bad for them nor did alot of people if you read carefully... sure i feel sorrow for them.. they died... they have a family... who wouldnt. but it is a part of their job. its a risk they take.
i cant find the posting on the other teo things i stated but they all did occur.
here is the one about the brown guy getting pulled over in the benz:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew..._name=&no_ads=
as to your claims, i agree with you 100% that the news is biased and we usually do hear only about good/bad incidences...
the opposite to that is: how many times do you think the cops have screwd people over abusing there power and it has gone unreported? alot of those people who are mistreated by cops arent going to tell anyone... who can they tell? its them VS the cops? understand what im getting at?
sure the news does only report stories that are big or will sway their ratings but in that, implicitly its stated that not all news makes it too the news... and to add to that, when you have someone with power mistreating you... its often not reported...
for proof on this: look at workplace harrassment, church sexual exploitations and even child abuse.
as for not feeling bad for them, i never said that i never felt bad for them nor did alot of people if you read carefully... sure i feel sorrow for them.. they died... they have a family... who wouldnt. but it is a part of their job. its a risk they take.
as for the pulled over Benz, it might have been racial profiling but amazing how cocaine was in the car.
who's to say it wasn't really his or not.
but it's still in the family, not far away from the guy
even if he was found innocent. lol
07-Mar-2005, 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by jak3
okay Vik, just that you came across like you the cops knew the risks and had this i don't care attitude.
as for the pulled over Benz, it might have been racial profiling but amazing how cocaine was in the car.
who's to say it wasn't really his or not.
but it's still in the family, not far away from the guy
even if he was found innocent. lol
okay Vik, just that you came across like you the cops knew the risks and had this i don't care attitude.
as for the pulled over Benz, it might have been racial profiling but amazing how cocaine was in the car.
who's to say it wasn't really his or not.
but it's still in the family, not far away from the guy
even if he was found innocent. lol
i never said i never felt bad or that i didnt feel for the victems families... its a risky job, stuff happens...
enough said
07-Mar-2005, 11:04 AM
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1) If a cop gets killed in the line of duty, who really gives a crap!
- i do not see how a police officer dying is no more or less worse than a child dying of starvation in another country. if you don't give a 'crap' enough about that to do anything about it, or even mention it, why is this any more important if you don't know anyone involved in the situation?
2) Some drug dealers are really nice guys who are just trying to get by in life. (Including the bikers who own the grow ops)
- you are misrepresenting arguments. name three big canadian politicians who were not criminals by any means... cretein? mulruny? are these people just trying to get by? what about all the well known drug bars that cops know about.. but 'forget' or look the other way... they're far worse if you ask me.
3) Pot is great, nevermind all the studies that show it's a gateway drug to crack, coke etc. (And no, not in all cases, so relax.)
- i personally hate pot. there is zero scientific research to show it's a gateway drug. using this logic, pornography leads to rape, and catholic priesthood leads to pedophelia.
4) Some people on this board have their heads so far up their azzes, the oxygen has been cut off to their brains.
- if oxygen was cut from our brains, we wouldn't be able to type very long. you really should at least grasp an understanding of biology or your essential needs for survival before commenting on this.
the last police officer I met, I like.. he's fine.. from what I know.. the one previous... was telling me how he kept busting the same kids every week.. confiscated their hash all the time.. letting them go.. and smoking it himself. someone to really look upto.
what a police officer does on his or her own time is the government's business in regards to if they are breaking the law, because they are the ones sworn to uphold it. if they don't believe in the law, they shouldn't be enforcing it. how would you feel if your parents were doing lines of coke and banging strippers whenever you weren't home but told you not to do anythign like that, and if you did, they would forcefully ground you?
hipocrites suck.
- i do not see how a police officer dying is no more or less worse than a child dying of starvation in another country. if you don't give a 'crap' enough about that to do anything about it, or even mention it, why is this any more important if you don't know anyone involved in the situation?
2) Some drug dealers are really nice guys who are just trying to get by in life. (Including the bikers who own the grow ops)
- you are misrepresenting arguments. name three big canadian politicians who were not criminals by any means... cretein? mulruny? are these people just trying to get by? what about all the well known drug bars that cops know about.. but 'forget' or look the other way... they're far worse if you ask me.
3) Pot is great, nevermind all the studies that show it's a gateway drug to crack, coke etc. (And no, not in all cases, so relax.)
- i personally hate pot. there is zero scientific research to show it's a gateway drug. using this logic, pornography leads to rape, and catholic priesthood leads to pedophelia.
4) Some people on this board have their heads so far up their azzes, the oxygen has been cut off to their brains.
- if oxygen was cut from our brains, we wouldn't be able to type very long. you really should at least grasp an understanding of biology or your essential needs for survival before commenting on this.
the last police officer I met, I like.. he's fine.. from what I know.. the one previous... was telling me how he kept busting the same kids every week.. confiscated their hash all the time.. letting them go.. and smoking it himself. someone to really look upto.
what a police officer does on his or her own time is the government's business in regards to if they are breaking the law, because they are the ones sworn to uphold it. if they don't believe in the law, they shouldn't be enforcing it. how would you feel if your parents were doing lines of coke and banging strippers whenever you weren't home but told you not to do anythign like that, and if you did, they would forcefully ground you?
hipocrites suck.
07-Mar-2005, 12:44 PM
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hypocrites*
lol @ drug dealers who are nice guys trying to get by in life.
a guy at work, deals weed and maybe other stuff, but definitely weed, admitted it.
anyways talked the other day and he said, he can't sell weed anymore because it's not a career to get by on...so he's going into real estate, and he's only 22.
lol @ getting by in life, selling drugs.
pathetic excuse, get your *** in school, like everyone else and get a job to pay for it.
lol @ drug dealers who are nice guys trying to get by in life.
a guy at work, deals weed and maybe other stuff, but definitely weed, admitted it.
anyways talked the other day and he said, he can't sell weed anymore because it's not a career to get by on...so he's going into real estate, and he's only 22.
lol @ getting by in life, selling drugs.
pathetic excuse, get your *** in school, like everyone else and get a job to pay for it.
07-Mar-2005, 01:22 PM
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after im done psychology, ill get my masters... then my doctorate... then i can become a legal drug dealer... morphine anyone? 
or maybe ill just become a cop and pull over kids with loud mufflers and harass people who dont dress like i do...
PS: nicely said Bruce Fee. This is getting way out of hand now.
or maybe ill just become a cop and pull over kids with loud mufflers and harass people who dont dress like i do...
PS: nicely said Bruce Fee. This is getting way out of hand now.
07-Mar-2005, 01:22 PM
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my example earlier in the thread was about someone who was going to school and selling weed to pay for it and his living expenses.
he was out on bail and selling drugs.. hahaha.
i don't talk to most of those guys anymore, most of them never grew up.
i just don't see a moral difference in anyway selling weed or alcohol to adults.
he was out on bail and selling drugs.. hahaha.
i don't talk to most of those guys anymore, most of them never grew up.
i just don't see a moral difference in anyway selling weed or alcohol to adults.
