imported_Team Rukus

this is to everyone on this board and everyone where ever that place may be.

i would like to say that i didnt steal the el front end conversion or anything else for that matter.

for hte people that dont kno wat is going on let me state this thread from clubel.

http://www.clubel.ca/viewthread.php?tid=5515

apparently this memeber on clubel accused me of stealing parts or selling stolen parts. and then stated that i am threatenin him and stuff.

if u read the post carefully u will notice that he asked me a sarcastic question something along the lines of "you wouldnt have by any chance gotten parts off some guy who stole them from u"

and to his remark i stated a sarcastic post saying

yes i stole all the parts from fellow clubel memebers and then i am tryin to sell it back here and i put a to show that i was being sarcastic.

to which he replied by sayin dont threaten me or watever.
but i dont exactly understand how i threatened him by sayin that and oh yea i even said thanks to him for bumpin the post.

then he replied back sayin how if i got a problem i should do something about it.

so thats how the whole issue started.

now my question is why everyone is believin this guy oever me and notice the THREAD got locked? and i got banned EVENTHOUGH i didnt have a chance to explain myself? oh did someone else notice that some of the other memebrs there said some stuff like oh y would u sell stolen stuff and **** without even reading the post clearly?

i pm'ed cosmic about this and he told me that he is cool wit me and for me to post this here thats y i am doing this this is wat i wrote to cosmic..............................

Team Rukus wrote on November 13th, 2003 12:09 AM:
sup cosmic.
i have been told by a few friends from tcc that on the members lounge i am being put down regarding stolen parts n stuff.
i also saw the gsr blades post too.

i would like to clarify this situation at the earliest.

let me say that the parts i am selling are not stolen and i can get u reciepts n stuff to prove it aswell. like i am dead serious.

the el front end i am selling is legit
i bought it at japanese used auto parts.
i have vaild reciepts for it
if i wanted to sell stolen stuff i would've sold it for way below wat value is and believe me and i am pretty shure u know this too there is a million people out there that would be willing ot buy el parts asap especially cheap so i wouldnt be posting on tcc and clubel of all the places.

some kid on clubel started this whole **** saying i bought stolen parts and am selling it for more.

1 i did buy stolen parts i ADMIT TO IT 100% and it wasnt wat i was selling i bought 2 headlights, grille and fenders and i used that on my friends car and i got it for him and he was fully aware of wat he was gettin into. and it wasnt even my money i just had the link from some guy on clubel who was also posting here the stolen stuf.

2. people arent understnading that i didnt steal no car that i aint a scam artist or watever and that i dont do that kinda business.

3. i happen to love the el off because its very compatible with the ek civic sedan i have therefore i always try to get el parts cuz i cant afford gsr motor or even a lude motor or watever else. the el is the cheapest mod i can do to my civic so i do it and try to source it and i kno there is a market for it so i look for it so i can make some money here and there thru exchange.

4. there are tons of tcc memebers that i helped out and even painted their cars. for example tman he is someone from hamilton and i didnt evne kno him till now. he gave me his 1995 honda civic with an b16a1 swap and 2000.00 dollars and 2 weeks to paint his car and trusted me with it eventhought he didnt know me and we also worked off the shop so i could've fully took off with his money but i didnt. and then there is iori and tons of other memebrs that i even helped out for free.

i am not sayin oh i did all this good stuff so i didnt steal. i am just saying that i have been on this board for like a super long time and have alot of friends and believe me by car got stolen and stripped to the bone and i kno how it feels like when people steal ur **** so i would definately not do that.

i dunt really know wat els ei can say but answer any other questions u might have. like memebrs told me to just like forget about it and start a new account but i dont want to do thta cuz thats kinda like admitting i was the one who did it n ****. and if u look in the classifieds feeback i have gotten only good reviews and i also on several ocassions helped out from stolen **** being sold. so if u can plz do anything to help me out it would be much appreciated as tcc is like a family to me and i dont want to loose any trust or be kicked out of it cuz i share info i kno and earn alot of info i need here aswell.

imported_Team Rukus

and this was cosmics reply:

what's up
listen... thanks for clearing this **** up..... right now, i'm not doing anything. i could have banned you the day i read that club EL post... but didn't.....I figure if you clear the **** up it's all good with me
but.... it's not just up to me..... there are other admin here..... so I've posted your PM in the pit for the other admin to look at and decide what to do
it might be a good idea if you post what you sent me in the chit chat forum..... and see how the other members feel about it.
i'll be honest, if you can get the others on this board to buy into what you told me... it'll be a lot easier to stay posting under the same user name.

hope that helps
cosmic

bdotdan

posted by Team Rukus
Thursday November 6, 2003,
hahaha funny guy.
1 this is a complete front end.
2 i bought a headlight/fender/grill of ur so called friend. yes i was aware they wer stolen thats why i paid him so little.
3 if u got a problem then take it to pm
4 ur a 19 year old kid who is in highschool still u dont wanna ruin ur life now messin with someone u dont know
5 ur an internet thug u shure are cool.

yes you did admit you bought stolen parts. you also were the first to make a somewhat threat. as to when he said not to threaten someone, a saw it as don't threaten the people associated with the thieves, since he claimed you threatened them.

also you didn't clearly state when you admitted to buying stolen parts that the parts you were selling were legit. you finally said something in your last post. but some people might not believe you, and i think thats justified. you admitted it, so how do they know those receipts of yours aren't from previous el parts you purchased?

anyway, you probably would hae been banned cause you admitted to buying stolen parts. thats frowned upon by all forums. what if it was your car, would you like it if someone stole something from you? your helping the thieves by buying there ****.

im not takin sides here, but you could have explained everything sooner and more clearly. and the threat you did make didn't help you at all. i do hope this is all cleared up though.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

whatever man... I certainly wouldn't get jacked parts, but the fact is they'll end up on the street one way or another, and insurance pays for that ****, and then they rape us in the ***, so it's all one big vicious circle that comes back on us. From now on put a "SPICY" rating on your for sale posts 0 = not hot, 1 = unknown origin, 2 = few months old hot, 3 = few weeks old hot, 4 = few hours old hot, 5 = part comes with car attached LOL

juss kiddin keep yourself out of that business, not for our sake but for yours. There are better ways to do business and make money. A few hundred/thousand bux you hussle here or there - it ain't **** over a lifetime of earning.... for real, it's not worth it.

imported_gatherer

fix the double negative please

anyways just posting a question here you admit to being a broker between a dude that needed parts and a dude that had parts (knowing that they were stolen) .... ok anyways just to clarify you no longer deal with people that sell stolen parts?

imported_Cablerat

Rukus, that car in your sig, I think I saw it at MCCowan and Nugget yesterday?

I went to a shop rite there yesterday, saw that exact car, no front end on it!!!!

Looks pretty damn nice..

imported_Team Rukus

k guys i understand wat u guys are saying.
and yes it was my fault for buyin the stolen parts for the guy so he can use them.

i didnt even threaten anybody like he stated how i went to the guys from the board and threaten them to keep their mouths shut but i didnt even do that.

if u noticed the parts i have are mulitcoloured and if someone got me stolen parts i am pretty shure it would be the smae colour rite? i mean yeah i could get mulitcoloured parts too but wouldnt that be a longer process and hassle for me to get it piece by piece? doesnt that somehow state that i didnt buy no hot stuff and selling it here?

oh well i dunno wat else i can say. but fo shure i dont sell none of these so called hot items cuz most of my stuff is usually new in wrapping n **** or of my own car.

yes cablerat my car is at lockdown rite now gettin stuff done to it.
u went there too?

imported_Team Rukus

yah obvioulsy i dont deal wit that kinda ****
the only reason i did it was cuz of a buddy of mine needed it and someone happened to come by with some **** and i even told him watever he is gettin into and he fully acknowledged it.

Gallagher

way too much reading, personally, I'm tmans friend and I haven't heard anything bad about you so i'm keeping it that way

imported_Cablerat

Hey Rukus, Yeah I was at lockdown, saw your car outside.. No front end.. Looks pretty sweet man..

EL_Sport

From the original thread:

So you admitted to selling stolen parts (given), but from the second sentence, this seems to be a common occurance at your shop. Doesn't seem right to me.

Just my 2 cents.

Gallagher

probably means that one way or another, when someone goes to his shop, they usually bring him stolen parts to put on peoples cars. Personally, I would put the crap together too. Money is money, your not the one stealing the crap. Think

imported_gatherer

yes but the whole issue is (as was said in the members lounge) if you use stolen parts and buy stolen parts you create a demand for those parts.

if no one buys these discounted parts then no one would steal them since there is no profit in it .. theives are profit modivated.

PULOVR

gatherer is right.


Lets say I own a home that allows people to come in and deal drugs, and I know about it. Would I be charged along with the people in my home, for drug dealing and drug possession? Yes I would.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem imo.

It's like saying you saw a murder (just an example), and you just turn a blind eye to what just happened.....the police can also charge you as well, as a "?", if they find out you knew about it, and you withheld evidence..(obstruction of justice).

("?"....I can't remember the word right now).

imported_haymaker

leave the man be, **** happens when i bought my car it came with a deck i found out later on the deck was stolen awhile back and kinda sucks because i cant do much about it, but i'm not about to go rip the thing out of my car and try to find the orginal owner. i feel as long as he doesnt suport the stealing which i'm sure he doesn't by his posts then leave him be, i know he would be glad to help any of you out with problems so just forget and move on if he sells stolen stuff again then be a judge

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

are we playing fill in the blank... oh goody!

"accessory to murder" would be my guess... it's the 1-8-7 on da undecova cop

PULOVR, I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, but the bottom line is those parts were gonna be sold one way or another, if TR didn't buy them, someone else would have. It's not like HIM not buying would immediately halt the entire chop shop industry. Get real... again, I'm not saying I'd do it, or that it's right one way or another, but the only way to be sure that parts are not stolen is to buy them at the dealer or at a shop.

The G2 Racer

Well I never read the orginal thread but I've talked to you a few times about doing work for me and haven't been lied to. SinceI don't know the whole story, I can't say something bad about you.
I still trust you man.

PULOVR

If he realized it and stoped, that's one thing..........but if he knows what's going on, and allows it to happen, then that's another story.

I'm not going to say anymore.

Gallagher

so you want him to call the cops on the guy that got it ?

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

agreed