szuberi

driven905

But allowing concealed handguns to be legal wont help the problem either. At least you are eliminating one possibility.

Gallagher

kinda like how marijuana is illegal now and more people do it for the thrill of doing something "illegal"

fingolfin

yah, i had no idea you were joking.
But about the concealed handguns, i think allowed that is asking for violence.
The way i see it, if we were allowed, people like me would go and get one. do i really need one, i got this far without one. Just say im downtown and its late, and im acting all peril and some homeless guy asks for change, i panic pull my gun and shoot him. If i didn't have a gun, i probably would just kick him and run.
(all in theory, i would never shot an unarmed individual)

giving people the option will only lead to more problems. 90% of people aren't intelligent to have a gun.

http://onlineathens.com/stories/0226...shooting.shtml

bruce fee

banning handguns is as effective for safety as not being allowed to take bottled water you purchased from the convenience store after security and customs at the airport.

If i'm going to committ pre-meditated murder with a gun, I'm not going to get a gun permit and purchase a legally registered hangun. I'm going to get whatever is right for the job.

If it's going to be a drive by, or something quick and dirty, I'm not going to carry around a pistol. an mp5 or uzi would be a far superior choice. I'm assuming the average gun toting criminal isn't gonna be shooting from more than 30 feet away (probably much closer)

A nice blade is far superior to a gun in close quarter (mugging, rape, murder in a quiet place - ie washroom in a bar, alley, nightclub at night) as it is quiet, easy to pass through security, smaller, nothing comes out the other side of the body, and far more lethal.

For personal security as well, I would much rather carry around close quarters weapons.

and besides, why carry around something you can go to jail for when wield a philips screwdriver that can be used as a stabbing device without the worry of being charged by police because they didn't like your look, searched you, and found out you're a part time electrician instead of a knife carrying idiot.



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gun control is BS

a democratic people should always be armed and ready to defend itself from the underworld, as well as a corrupt government.

education, better parenting, and a more reasonable legal system with more appropriate sentencing might give society a far better result.

But that might involve hard work from everyone.

bbarbulo

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corporal punishment FTW! wonder how many thieves would reoffend after 100 lashings. or how many pedophiles, child abusers/molesters, drunk drivers, rapists, car thiefs, robbers, etc. would be detered by the thought of being whipped/lashed. doesn't taiwan have a wicked good corporal punishment system and over there people don't litter or jaywalk even?

driven905

from the underworld ?? then the country is not so democratic after all ... and you are gonna shoot government people ?

again, legalizing concealed handguns would only bring more problems rather then solving them. Fight fire with fire, eh? i seriouslly doubt that would work at all.

The link posted is a good example ... and im sure there are many more examples like this one ... off the top of my head i remember a child killed another child by using the dad's handgun as a toy.

bbarbulo

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if they're zombies, then yes. underworld = zombies

as for fighting fire w/ fire... it was a joke man. jeez. but why should law abiding citizens have their right to arms taken away? i obey the law, my freedoms should include carrying arms. but that's more of an american argument, since our constitution doensn't provide for bearing arms

szuberi

i remember in some movie that when a guy was asked why do you the carry gun(s) at home? his reply was...who do you call when you are in trouble? the cops..and u know why? cuz cops have guns lol

it makes some sense

kruption

Thank-you, someone has seen the light. If you look back in history you'll notice weapon control policies was a way to gain total control with little resistance.

Rome flourished for a long time and then they banned private ownership of weapons. In more modern times, our dear friend Hitler was for gun control and look how he turned out.

I could go on but I know how most people feel on the subject, they tend not to care and turn a blind eye to it.

bbarbulo

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^^ no!!!! we must rise!! toronto council for private arms ownership... who's w/ me

bruce fee

i'm in.

kruption

The revolution begins!

screwface

i'll bring the keg.

i don't see the ****ing point in banning something that killers don't even buy legally. you know why? because it really doesn't make any ****ing sense.

it's a big shame canada is so full of pussies that the moment someone dies from an accident the media goes into overdrive (because there's nothing more exciting going on in canada than 'street racing') and the public buys into it hook, line, and sinker then wants whatever caused the accidental death to be banned.

the government already has the noose so tight on what's legal that it's becoming hard to breathe; it's a big ol shame that the ***** citizens of this pussified big urban sprawl are so stupid that they would freely give up all liberties for the illusion of safety. i am thoroughly disgusted.

bbarbulo

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we get our governing style from the UK... where all public places are under video surveillance.

is it any surprise that the gov't takes away more and more of our rights?

3lit3killa

handguns do not kill people idoits kill people and 95% of all handgun related killings are by a hot gun not by a registered owner so why take the fun out of range shooting for registered owners just because wanna be tough guys shoot up the streets?? doesnt seem just to me

kruption

My god, the UK is just falling harder and harder these days, especially with the protest ban zone they got going, lol so much for freedom.

When I was in London back in '03, I had a bobby question me about taking photo's and others from my work group had similar experiences during the trip around the city.

bruce fee

by the hanguns are only meant to kill logic, cops should be walking around with rifles with rubber bullets and be required to follow the same process as they do with a glock.

i'm surprised illegal gun handlers don't ever use grenades. how useful would it be to be able to toss an explosive to hit something covered by a shield, car door, or street/alley corner?