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Old 24-Nov-2003, 09:09 PM
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Can a good education guarentee you a good job?

For all of those who spent the long time doing hw and busting through college/uni and are done now, are you in the field you want to be? Or working at some place totally opposite to what you planned on doing?

Just getting a census here to see what its like out there.
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Old 24-Nov-2003, 09:16 PM
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i sure as hell hope so, im busting my ***** as we speak
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Old 24-Nov-2003, 09:19 PM
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HELL NO!!


my biggest regret was being forced to go to college out of highschool and not working
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Old 24-Nov-2003, 09:21 PM
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I think the question is can a good education guarantee you a good life?

If you are doing something you love it isn't work..

Trust me..


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Old 24-Nov-2003, 09:35 PM
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i wouldnt say it "guarantees" you a good job, but it certainly gives you a better chance
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Old 24-Nov-2003, 09:43 PM
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for me im not going to go to college reason why its because i just feel like im wasting my whole life on school so after highschool i decided to do apprenticeship getting payed while doing what i like and after my appr i take the test
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I graduated college, and am currently in university, so if I don't get some decent paying job when im done, I'm gonna be hella pissed!
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College and University is useless unless you have a career plan.

I took accounting in college, and when I got my first real job it sucked. However I worked my way out of the ******* and became the General Manager/Business Development Manager (nothing to do with accounting). 4 years later the company goes belly up. Now I find a job with the Trustee, because my spreadsheet skills and ACCPAC knowledge were needed in their office.

The college education received in accounting has proved useless (it was 7 years ago), and I had to start from the beginning in the Certified General Accountants Course that I am currently enrolled in. Basically I wasted those years.

Job wise, school has meant nothing until now (because I have now chosen a Profession), I made it on networking, and work ethic.

What i am saying is if you work hard, talk with the right people and make very few mistakes, you will be compensated handsomely.
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the answer is no .. a bunch of friends of mine all went to rcc with dreams of 50 grand starting in the electronics industry.

we got the best technician and technologist diplomas and most had trouble finding work.. since I went for the full 2 year course the group a graduated with consisted of 13 of us that had completed all 3 diplomas... roughly equal when we graduated .... (we compared marks when we were deciding on a class speaker and decided instead to not have one at graduation since none of shone more then the others so we took our alotted time and split it up and said thanks to the teachers)

anyways 3 months after graduation 2 of us had jobs .. (I was one of the 2 after beating out both a hiring freeze and 3 otherclassmates for my job) after 6 months it was 4 and after a year we all had jobs..

but 9 of us work outside the field in warehouses....

I make the top dollar compared to the rest of my peers (we compared) but it's still far short of the magical 50 grand the school said we could get if we wanted it...

to get a job I sent out 150 resumes and got 3 interviews and from that 1 job offer (which I took after 3 months out of school I needed it)

I was a lucky one....

and after reading ElectronBlue's comments I'd like to add that at work I use nothing of what I've learnt at RCC. I was trained by bell after they hired me ... mine you I do use programming stuff but I had to learn another language because VBA is all they had (and I didn't know it)

in the end I could have done the job I'm doing now without the education but without the papers I wouldn't have gotten the job
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Your telling me you can't make more than 50K with your school.

Move on.

Time for a change.

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Originally posted by JohnnyToronto
I graduated college, and am currently in university, so if I don't get some decent paying job when im done, I'm gonna be hella pissed!
this is the issue with college and university grads you all think it's going to be handed to you on a silver patter ... well dude the silver platter has been melted down for some new shoes for the CEO's ... it doesn't exist anymore ... take courses on how to network and that will help
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Old 24-Nov-2003, 10:33 PM
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good feedback guys and gals.

My friend has this same view that when hes done college all the work will pay off and he will be living some great life with a great job and just sit back and relax, but I keep telling him its not like that and by reading some of the response it seems Im in the same area of thinking.

No doubt college/uni helps alot build your work ethic etc, but like some suggested cannot guarentee a great paying job right outta school and all your problems are solved.
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Old 24-Nov-2003, 10:45 PM
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i agree with everyone... my 3 years of college a waste of my time and a major waste of money.... i dont understand why highschool and parents push kids to go to college/uni so soon.... i would much rather my parents just give me all that money i got for college and just go get a nice car enjoy my late teens and then by now after working for a couple years i'd either be somewhere in a company or at least know what i want to do
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well loudsubz, I suggest that before you decide whether or not school is for you, you should really consider what your options are, and maybe talk to your parents about it. It may feel like your wasting your money if you dont like your program but I think in the end you will be thankful. Also, you are still young, going to college will help you not only knowledge wise but it will give you time to find out what you are really interested in. It is hard today to find a job that doesnt require you to have a post secondary education, even if you have connections. Think about those of us that went to University, it is more philosophical and we have essays to write, will we have to write essays in our future careers? more than likely no, but we have to write them and prove our knowledge of the subject, where as college is more hands on, so you are learning skills and applying your knowledge that you will use in the future especially if you do anything to do with electronics or technology. So give college a chance, you dont have much time left there and I think you will be thankful in future. My point is, you dont want to limit your options in life because you didnt get a college diploma.

Thou Im sure you wouldnt mind quitting school and going to live with your gf :P hehe just kidding
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ahhh im applying for U's this month

im gonna go and blow my $ and be in debt for many years
but like *leelou* says im gonna leave my options open

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my cousin grad from ryerson w/ business management diploma and is jobless for 2 years already
he got jobs but **** ones

my other cousin on the other hand grad for electrical engineer, but he was a special brainer student and is now riding a 3.5 TL TYPE S and hes in mid 20's all paid for by himself

u make the choice or u can do what schools say.. ask ur guidance conselor <-- **** i dont even know how to spell that hahaha
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How come option's listed so far involve being an happy employee rather than a happy employer.

Self-Employment is great if you can handle the commitment.

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Originally posted by 94EG6HB
I think the question is can a good education guarantee you a good life?

If you are doing something you love it isn't work..

Trust me..



I couldn't agree more with Aaron on this one. For me, I went to university to get a good education, and not persay so that I could get a good job....I went because I wanted to go. To answer your question Matt, no it doesn't guarantee that you'll get a high paying job. Nothing in this world is a guarantee except for death and taxes.

Knowing what I know now, would I have still gone to university...hell yea. I don't regret a single day of my university experience.

I graduated in June of 2003, and during this past year, I've been thinking of what "to do now" and I still don't know what I want to do....but that's okay.

When I first started university my plan was to graduate, take a year off and then apply to a police service and start my career. Well that's not how things have gone.

I did some travelling this year, and had the best time of my life. I think people worry too much about making their life perfect and having things go like they are supposed to. My brother graduated college and immediately started his career, and is working full time in Pickering...he's happy.

My goal is not to find a high paying job, but to find a job that I'll love. Aaron's right, once you find "this" job, it won't be a job anymore.

Just relax Matt, worrying about the future won't add another day to your life.
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good topic,



personally now a days jobs are hard as hell to find, i would be suprised if you could even find a job you like,.....
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Old 24-Nov-2003, 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by 94EG6HB
Your telling me you can't make more than 50K with your school.

Move on.

Time for a change.

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I was speaking for a starting salary.... I feel that after starting at 36,00 a year and moving up from that 42,100 I'm doing ok....

I think self employment is for those that can handle the dedication I can't I know that so I work for the man.... I ain't complaining ... just saying self employment is over rated in my eyes....

although I could have made alot more self employed... there was a possible self mployed job reverse engineering I could have gotten into ... now thats fun....
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Old 24-Nov-2003, 11:27 PM
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Thanks James you are very right about not worrying. Too much stress is put on me from parents etc to do well in school and make me feel if i dont im gonna amount to nothign when Im done.

I need to relax and enjoy school more I think.
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