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Old 18-Apr-2010, 10:25 PM
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Canada Pensions..really?

Canada Pensions...


Only in Canada
* It is interesting to know that the Federal Government of Canada allows :

  • A monthly pension of : $1,890.00 to a simple refugee
  • plus : 580.00 in social aid
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  • A grand total of : $2,470.00 monthly
X 12 months
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$28,920.00 annual income

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By comparison, the Old Age Pension of a senior citizen who has contributed to the development of Our Beautiful Big Country during 40 or 50 years, CANNOT receive more than :

  • Amount/month $1,012.00 in Old Age Pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement
X 12 months
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$12,144.00 annual income

  • A difference of : $16,776.00 per year


* Perhaps our senior citizens should ask for the Status of Refugees instead of applying for Old Age Pension.
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messed up...
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Old 19-Apr-2010, 04:19 PM
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I know some people that came to canada under the "refugee" statusand to be 100% honest , I still haven't met a single person who did not "make up" lies to the canadian goverment to access as a refugee

I even know a person who told the canadian govermenet she was rape and that she was being harrassed by the gu e rri lla , when this was all lies ( she even brought in a fake newspaper with her name and an made up article) ...

What's even worst a lot of these people end up working for cash under the table while receiving more benefits than most of us ..

I also knew a couple under refugee status driving a brand new suv , and going on vacations

I m not even saying they all do it , because I m sure some people do really need to come as refugees but I disagree with all the benefits that they are given .. While like the op stated our seniors dont even get half those benefts even though they have contribute for many many years to the system
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You do realize that CPP is based on the amount of money that's put in throughout your lifetime and OAS is based on the amount of years you been in Canada right? So if a refugee came into the country 2 years ago, they're CPP would be close to nil.

Before you start using numbers you don't understand, try to do some research and stop making a dummy of yourself.
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What's refugee status anyways, people running away from poverty countries?
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Old 20-Apr-2010, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by luke11
You do realize that CPP is based on the amount of money that's put in throughout your lifetime and OAS is based on the amount of years you been in Canada right? So if a refugee came into the country 2 years ago, they're CPP would be close to nil.

Before you start using numbers you don't understand, try to do some research and stop making a dummy of yourself.

Numbers don't lie.
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Originally Posted by Polkaroo Killa
Numbers don't lie.
don't **** off Luke Skywalker...he'll slice you with his lightsaber
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Old 20-Apr-2010, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999blksi
don't **** off Luke Skywalker...he'll slice you with his lightsaber
Luke Skywalker must have applied for refugee status and is about to milk Canada's system just like so many others.
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Originally Posted by luke11
You do realize that CPP is based on the amount of money that's put in throughout your lifetime and OAS is based on the amount of years you been in Canada right? So if a refugee came into the country 2 years ago, they're CPP would be close to nil.

Before you start using numbers you don't understand, try to do some research and stop making a dummy of yourself.
sounds like someone is a little over sensitive about this topic

... maybe you are one of those refugees?
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Old 20-Apr-2010, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by miss_jess
sounds like someone is a little over sensitive about this topic

... maybe you are one of those refugees?
Luke is just pissed off because when he applied for refugee status on Tatooine (his home planet), they denied him b/c he's too ignorant to realize you don't apply for refugee status in your own COUNTRY!!!
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Originally Posted by Polkaroo Killa
Canada Pensions...


Only in Canada
* It is interesting to know that the Federal Government of Canada allows :

  • A monthly pension of : $1,890.00 to a simple refugee
  • plus : 580.00 in social aid
==========

  • A grand total of : $2,470.00 monthly
X 12 months
==========
$28,920.00 annual income

·
By comparison, the Old Age Pension of a senior citizen who has contributed to the development of Our Beautiful Big Country during 40 or 50 years, CANNOT receive more than :

  • Amount/month $1,012.00 in Old Age Pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement
X 12 months
============
$12,144.00 annual income

  • A difference of : $16,776.00 per year


* Perhaps our senior citizens should ask for the Status of Refugees instead of applying for Old Age Pension.

just out of curiosity where did you get this information?

I was checking the goverment website and I found a somewhat different info

Refugees don’t receive more financial assistance from the federal government than Canadian pensioners.
A letter to the editor of a Canadian newspaper contained this incorrect information. In it, a one-time, start-up payment provided to some refugees in Canada was mistaken for an ongoing, monthly payment. Unfortunately, although the newspaper published a clarification, the misleading information had already ****** widely over e-mail and the internet.
In truth, about three quarters of resettled refugees receive financial assistance from the federal government, for a limited time, and at levels lower than Canadian pensioners. They are known as government-assisted refugees.
We have to remember that many of these people have fled from unimaginable hardship, and have lived in refugee camps for several years. Others are victims of trauma or torture in their home countries. Many arrive with little more than a few personal belongings, if that. Canada has a long humanitarian tradition of accepting refugees and helping them start their new lives here.
For this reason, government-assisted refugees receive a one-time amount of up to $1,330 from the federal government to cover essentials — basic, start-up needs like food, furniture and clothing. They also receive a temporary monthly allowance for food and shelter that is based on provincial social assistance rates. In Ontario, for example, a single refugee would receive $710 per month. This assistance is temporary — lasting only for one year or until they can find a job, whichever comes first.
This short-term support for refugees is a far cry from the lifetime benefits for Canada’s seniors. The Old Age Security (OAS) program, for example, provides people who have lived in Canada for at least 10 years with a pension at age 65. The Guaranteed Income Supplement (GIS) is an additional monthly benefit for low-income pensioners. The Canada Pension Plan (CPP), or Quebec Pension Plan (QPP) for people in Quebec, pays a monthly retirement pension to people who have worked and contributed to the plan over their career. In October 2007, Canadian seniors received an average of $478.28 in OAS benefits and $481.46 in CPP retirement benefits ($393.84 in QPP). Lower income OAS recipients also qualified for an average of an additional $393.99 in GIS benefits. In Ontario, for example, a pensioner would receive approximately $959 per month.


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i m just curious to know where you got the info from


BTW I do not agree with the refugee program that canada offers as too many people take advantage of it.. I know some people do really need it but out of 10 proably only 2 actually need it..


I know enough people that are not in need of this program but they want to take the easy way out instead of comming here and working like we all do
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Originally Posted by miss_jess
sounds like someone is a little over sensitive about this topic

... maybe you are one of those refugees?
I'm sensitive about it because I worked for CPP and OAS and it amazes me about the idiocy that people have when they try to talk about something they don't know about.

Once you've educated yourself about the topic when you ACTUALLY understand how they're actually calculated then feel free to discuss how it works.
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refugees should be forced to join the military for 3 years of service before being allowed into the country.
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^^ Great idea Bruce!
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Originally Posted by rick10

I even know a person who told the canadian govermenet she was rape and that she was being harrassed by the gu e rri lla ,
what kind of guerrilla and why did you space out the wording?

Was it a big or small guerilla? I think the size of the guerilla would determine whether someone is eligible for refugee status....
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Originally Posted by 1999blksi
what kind of guerrilla and why did you space out the wording?

Was it a big or small guerilla? I think the size of the guerilla would determine whether someone is eligible for refugee status....

it was all made up ... and this was a long time ago
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Originally Posted by luke11
I'm sensitive about it because I worked for CPP and OAS and it amazes me about the idiocy that people have when they try to talk about something they don't know about.

Once you've educated yourself about the topic when you ACTUALLY understand how they're actually calculated then feel free to discuss how it works.
I feel the EXACT same way when people talk about insurance, I totally understand where you are coming from.
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Originally Posted by miss_jess
I feel the EXACT same way when people talk about insurance, I totally understand where you are coming from.
Then you should really take your own advice....shouldn't you.
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Originally Posted by luke11
Then you should really take your own advice....shouldn't you.
You’re absolutely correct!! I should have automatically assumed you worked for them and that’s why you were unbearablely sensitive about the topic.

CLEARLY, my mistake.
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