imported_Bruce Fee

"Drugs" are a fairly serious issue within our society. "Drugs" are everywhere.

But what are they?

A substance one would instert into ones body (ingest, inject, snort, smoke, whatever) that would alter the state of mind.

Is this it?

What about antibiotics or pain releivers such as ibuprofin?

what about beer?

Requim for a Dream is a movie I recommend people see. Along with Trainspotting.

Requim was pretty disturbing for me. It parallels heroin abuse and pill popping presribed by a doctor. It's really interesting.

I just want to get a feel for the opinions of people here and to see if it's worth discussing.

Discussing anything about this topic with people who have no knowledge other than what their parents told them and think 'illegal' means bad drugs and legal means good drugs is of no interest to me.

Nor would discussing this with chronic potheads be of any relevance to me.

I know a person who thinks "weed is for children" and put herself on a high horse, "drugs are for losers" then she'll go get drunk on weekend and talk about how happy she is that her little brother was prescribed rittalin and that now he's behaving and better in school.

rittalin has the same effects as coccaine on the brain (chemically) it's just not as strong. it's known as a "focus drug"

I personally think most drugs are okay as long as their are used recreationally and not in any other way. (I don't think even caffiene should not be used every morning)

punkindrublic

something that toxifies the body?

imported_Bruce Fee

what do you mean by toxify? cyanide and nutmeg would both be drugs then?

punkindrublic

maybe they are?


probably something put in your system with a known effect or something...

Brett

I would say drugs are any substance which when injested into the body (the way it is taken does not matter) has a effect on your physical or mental well being. I find the double standard that many people use for drugs to be amusing. Weed or Coke or whatever is evil but they go and binge drink every weekend. What is the real difference? Im in agreement with Bruce that there is nothing wrong with drug use as long as it is recreational.
As for the Requim for a Dream movie i found it very distrubing as well and didn't even want to watch the end (although i did).

imported_Bruce Fee

I know a guy who is into coke and has been for a number of years, yet he has always been on top of things.. or at least appears to be.. he's lived on his own and had a legit job the whole time...

i know people who don't drink, smoke, or do any 'drugs' and sit at home watching div'x movies on their parents' TV working 10 hours part time somewhere without much of a future.

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Punk what's your stance on 'drugs' though? If I drink two coffees a day so that I'm not sleepy, would you consider me addicted to drugs? Or what about smoking a joint once a day, would I then be addict?

on a side note, although I would champion the legalization of any drugs for adults, I think all potheads are idiots. Not because they smoke up everyday, but because of the side effects of having so much THC in your body. Getting fxcked up everyday (provided you grow out of it and always take care of your ish) really isn't such an issue I don't think

punkindrublic

i dont do drugs, prescription or otherwise, never got into the whole druggie scene, i had some pain killers when i got my wisdom teeth out in grade 6 and that was the last time i had any medication or anything... i never get sick ever so i figure its working...

imported_gatherer

a drug in my opinion is a foregien substance introduced to the body (in the methods you mentioned) and that is not food.

yes I consider prescibed drugs, drugs... (hence the word Drugs in perscribed)

and it doesn't change just the state of mind but could also change the state of the body as well

Cynikal.Mindset

Cocaine is a helluva drug...as long as u dont let yourself become dependant on a substance I see nothing wrong with using it...when people find out that you do a certain drug they look at you all weird and **** like you are nuts...whats up with that??? and then people say that its so bad and this and that...but they have never tried it themselves...

to me, drugs are the modern sense of adventure, its a new journey with everything you try...keep the use to a social/recreational level and all is well

SteveZ

Drugs Are Bad Mmkay!

punkindrublic

imported_GoldBadge

Hahaha. I get it!

Maybe a better question would be to ask:

"What defines a Narcotic Drug?"

Main Entry: 1nar·cot·ic
Pronunciation: när-'kä-tik
Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English narkotik, from Middle French narcotique, from narcotique, adjective, from Medieval Latin narcoticus, from Greek narkOtikos, from narkoun to benumb, from narkE numbness -- more at SNARE

1 a : a drug (as opium) that in moderate doses dulls the senses, relieves pain, and induces profound sleep but in excessive doses causes stupor, coma, or convulsions b : a drug (as marijuana or LSD) subject to restriction similar to that of addictive narcotics whether physiologically addictive and narcotic or not

2 : something that soothes, relieves, or lulls


I guess it's the same question afterall...nevermind.

imported_Fug

oh ya, cocaine is an awesome drug, but its so awesome that I have limited myself to only using it a few times (3 i think) and the last time was a few months ago. Its so good that I know why its extremely addictive so i thought i might as well quit with the experience and forget about doing any more.......

TranceaddicT

Everything is a drug. Everthing. from coffee to crystal meth.

and anyone, and everyone will try to make money off it (dealers, or FDA)

imported_JookSingKid

North America is one of the most over medicated societies...

I don't really see any different between perscription drugs and street drugs.

I'm not advocating the use of either, both can be very addictive and can grave impact on your life.

I classify alcohol on the same level as "recreational drugs" such as marajuana.

VikJae

drugs are anything that when taken, alter the normal functioning of your body by reacting with your body's chemical system.

for example: coffee contains caffiene which is a drug that stimulates your body. in essense then, coffee can be seen as a drug when used excessively however the addiction would be to the caffeine not the coffee per se... make sense?

tylonel is a drug, its widely used to decrease pain levels and muscle aches as we all know. again, it alters the normal functioning of the body.

in your argument you said stated nutmeg could be taken as a drug and yeah, in large amounts, nutmeg can give you one hell of a trip.

imported_Bruce Fee

nutmeg can kill you actually. you don't need a lot either.

one good snort of freshly ground nutmeg is all it took my buddy.

the idiot couldn't feel half of his body for a while.. hahaha

then again.. this is a guy who we had to drag out of a snowbank in nothing but his underwear after not coming back into the cottage one year.

t_dot_porkchop

are steroids considered drugs to you guys? why should they be illegal?

why are teenage girls allowed to pop birth control pills (which are STEROIDS) so they can have sex, but an adult, tax-paying, law-abiding man cannot legally buy some testosterone without a prescription so he can get bigger and stronger for his own personal satisfaction.

if the US government worried more about child molesters and murderers and economic cheaters (ie Worldcom, etc) and worried less about how big barry bonds' arms are, i think it would be a step in the right direction.

BTW: i am not advocating any sort of drug or steroid use...this is just hypothetically speaking.

imported_Bruce Fee

I advocate everything. even drinking motor oil if you want.

It has the bruce fee seal of approval.