imported_Bruce Fee

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"SALT LAKE CITY - The commander of the Utah Highway Patrol's drunken driving unit has been cited for driving under the influence of alcohol after crashing his cruiser into a concrete barrier, authorities said.

Lt. Fred Swain veered off the shoulder of a highway in Draper early June 23, overcorrected and hit the barrier that separates the lanes, Lt. Doug McCleve said Thursday.

Swain said he fell asleep at the wheel, but officers suspected he had been drinking, said Draper police Sgt. Scott Peck. Swain refused to submit to a breathalyzer test until two patrol captains talked to him, Peck said.

The test showed that Swain's blood-alcohol level was nearly 0.12 percent, Peck said. Utah's legal limit is 0.08 percent.

Swain was placed on paid administrative leave while the patrol conducts an internal investigation.

Contacted by KSL-TV on Thursday, Swain said it was not in his best interest to comment.

Draper police investigated the incident. It's common for law enforcement agencies to ask another agency to investigate incidents involving their own personnel. Draper is about 19 miles south of Salt Lake City."

hahahah

why is he on paid leave?

imported_ashtonp24

I guess they don't practice what they preach. This makes me hate cops even more.

iam_immigrant

cops always get a slap on the wrist on then paid leave, like WTF!! Then they wonder why they're hated.

TSXxx

Whats new?, I know a few cops and they drove drunk 2-3 times a week not to mention getting high and driving. 99.9% of the time if they get pulled over they get let off, its a cop code of respect.

imported_damdam

Swain was placed on paid administrative leave while the patrol conducts an internal investigation.

that's stupid

andyboy

how can you hate on an entire profession just cuz of one bad apple or a few?
yes cops are supposed to uphold a high level of moral conduct being in the position that theyre in, but i think its ignorant of you to hate on an entire profession becuase of the bad judgemnt of an individual. i doubt that if a lawyer or a judge were caught dui, you wouldnt say you hate all lawyers and judges.

imported_Bruce Fee

the difference is that lawyer don't walk around with guns and lawyers don't walk around picking who to arrest.

When the force overall is blantantly corrupt, how can you say a few bad apples.

I can name a bunch of clubs off the top of my head where you I guarantee you can get drugs in very openly without having any problems. You think the cops don't know? Maybe they find their pockets a little heavier when they go talk to the owner.

I'm not into drugs or the scene whatsoever.

I have a friend who used to DJ, they had a room specifically for VIPs.. this included cops... completely cut off from the club.. they had a few ****** and drugs for them..

anyone who thinks 'protect and serve' is what most cops want to do is living a dream. i think police should be under much more surveillence.

andyboy

i disagree. that fact that you carry a gun or pick who to arrest still isnt a significant difference. the bottom line is, both professions carry a strict code of ethics. sure cops bring them in but judges decide if they're guilty...actually now that i think of it, many would be surprised how many corrupt lawyers there are.... a side note for just a bit...there was recently an article in the star cracking down on corrupt lawyers abusing their powers in the gta. the numbers are overwhelming. similar to the police they have their own diciplinary committee and its a joke far beyond the police service. anyhow, my point is, just cuz there are a few bad apples, you cant hate on an entire profession. in comparrison, its like saying i hate all lawyers now. thats just plain ignorant...and to some they feel it automatically makes them a bada$$ when you publically state you hate cops. :ghey:

and about the club activities, just because the cops dont take immediate action it doesnt mean their pockets are 'heavy'. there could be a number of justifiable reasons theyre not making a bust.
to jump to a conclusion that theyre all in it is also ignorant.

i personally believe there should be more surveillence in many other professions, not just the police service. ie accountants, ceo's, nannies...the list goes on.

i guess its evident im pro police. cops have a bad rap and they dont deserve it.

imported_Bruce Fee

well, the good thing about your argument is i think lawyers are scum as well.

paid suspension is a joke.

the clubs.. have been there for years... one at least for 8 years now... and i'm sure much before then.

imported_ashtonp24

Being a cop is more than just a profession. It involves having certain personal ethics and values, and if cops cant hold that to their name, then they shouldnt be placed in a position serve and protect the community, cause thats not what theyre doing.


The force IS corrupt overall, theres no arguing that. My biggest problem is the way they throw their weight around and are not repramanded for THEIR wrong doings. So its not me trying to be a bada$$ saying I hate cops, its that I truly do hate cops.

As for your 'bad apples' scenario, yes, there are many bad apples out there. And those are the ones who ruin it for all cops. Now if the good cops outweighed the corrupt ones, I'd totally agree with you.

Take X-Coppers for example dude. You think they dont have connections to officers? All they do is take your money and get your charges dropped because of their contacts. Is that not corrupt?

andyboy

im gonna have to totally disagree with you. the force is not corrupt overall. im just gonna leave it at that.

as with that bad apples, you DONT know that the bad out-weighs the good. your only assuming theres more bad apples cuz of the few cases you read in the paper. in order to know theres more bad than good, you have to know the size of the force and every single good and bad cop out there. and quite frankly i dont think you do.

if you "truely hate cops" like you say then next time youre getting mugged or being violated in any way...dont ever call them.

imported_Bruce Fee

George Bush also said Iraq was a threat to the United States of America and left it at that.

imported_ashtonp24

I have a feeling that you are or are aspiring to be a cop.

iam_immigrant

The same can be said of you. How do you know for a fact that there arent more bad than good? It's a known fact that cops look out for each other so whats to say that there arent more cops exposed for improper bahavior because of this.

If you do know for a fact then I will retract all statments I've made.

An example of why I dont like the police. When we had our variety store and 3 young adults were busting our front door with a bat it took them almost 2.5 hrs to send 1 cruiser consisting of 1 officer when the station nearest to us is not even 10mins away.
Yes I know they have priorities but how would they know if the situation couldnt have easily escalated to someone getting seriously hurt or losing their life?

I'm with the others who have posted in this thread. Until there is a MASSIVE overhaul of the system I will continue to dislike and will not trust in the police.

andyboy

i know for a fact that metro has over 5000 uniformed police officers. and when i say i believe that the force is good overall, i AT LEAST have knowledge of the size of the force and not just form an opinion based on a few stories reported in the paper or heresay and nothing else.

imported_Bruce Fee

so your daddy is on the force?

imported_civic_blondie87

yeah my step dad has been a cop for 35 years.. he rrr drives after drinking the good half of a 24, he wouldnt do it driving his cruiser tho, but still, i dont approve of it

Cynikal.Mindset

your step dad is a winner...the better half of a 2-4 and still drives??? thats nuts

imported_Bruce Fee

Toronto's finest.

iam_immigrant

You still havent proved that you know for a FACT that there are more good than bad. You just stated a ballpark # of officers.