Dual Citizenship
#41
Originally posted by nnniiiccckkk007
Wow, OK you may have had a case fella, but you just put a lot of people in very a uncomfortable position.
I will reserve all comment on dual-citizenship, but you, fella, just crossed the line.
Racism comes in all forms, and obviously it is not exclusive to any one group.
I personally would rather be judged upon who I am not what I am . Unfortunately it is people like you who only recognize the baggage that comes with being from another nation.
Wow, OK you may have had a case fella, but you just put a lot of people in very a uncomfortable position.
I will reserve all comment on dual-citizenship, but you, fella, just crossed the line.
Racism comes in all forms, and obviously it is not exclusive to any one group.
I personally would rather be judged upon who I am not what I am . Unfortunately it is people like you who only recognize the baggage that comes with being from another nation.
But if your thinking that because of my comments that I'm anti-white, minority power or any of that crap, your sadly mistaken.
What I meant was that Ejak's comments are made from such an ethno-centric perspective that if he hadn't had a picture of himself I would've classified him as being of caucasian persuasion.
This is because you will more than likely find that the majority of immigrants or minorities embrace their dual-citizenship. This is what multi-cultralism has taught us. Very few if any are so patriotic as be only loyal to Canada. Ejak is one of the few in my mind.
This relates to my "white" comment. In my mind understanding what I perceive to be majority of opinion regarding dual citizenship amongst minorities; the only people who would be against it would be people who were born here and have no other defining culture as being Canadian. This does not apply to the kid of Trinidadian descent because he has another culture to which he can immerse himself in. My perception is that these people (white people for lack of a better term) would the first to take issue with people that have dual citizenship. This is their one and only homeland and thus the "leeching" of it causes great concern. Note in this thread, the first person to raise an serious concern to dual citizenship was indeed a person who is "white." Seeing Ejak's comments if I hadn't seen who he was, I would have grouped him into that category. Plain and simple.
Remember before you call me a racist again, read the definition.
1 the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races
2: discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race.
Nothing of what I said was any of those two things. If you think so, I'm glad to here it.
#42
Why does everyone take everything so personally? I think dual citizenship is great. It allows me to keep in touch with my routes travelling back home from time to time. You know, to keep preserving this multicultural society that we live in.
If your upset because you cant get one, you can always apply for a visa and go somewhere else too.
Granted its not as convienent, but hey, lets face it, if you dont have a dually or visa your probablly not going to go somewhere else anyway.
If your upset because you cant get one, you can always apply for a visa and go somewhere else too.
Granted its not as convienent, but hey, lets face it, if you dont have a dually or visa your probablly not going to go somewhere else anyway.
#43
Originally posted by nnniiiccckkk007
Wow, OK you may have had a case fella, but you just put a lot of people in very a uncomfortable position.
I will reserve all comment on dual-citizenship, but you, fella, just crossed the line.
Racism comes in all forms, and obviously it is not exclusive to any one group.
I personally would rather be judged upon who I am not what I am . Unfortunately it is people like you who only recognize the baggage that comes with being from another nation.
Wow, OK you may have had a case fella, but you just put a lot of people in very a uncomfortable position.
I will reserve all comment on dual-citizenship, but you, fella, just crossed the line.
Racism comes in all forms, and obviously it is not exclusive to any one group.
I personally would rather be judged upon who I am not what I am . Unfortunately it is people like you who only recognize the baggage that comes with being from another nation.
this is funny cause hes so white washed its not even funny
total caker
#46
I don't have a problem w/ people having dualies. (Too much to type the whole thing) LOL
But ya I guess some people do take it personal.
I think its a problem IF someone only say comes back if they are sick to milk the healthcare system. Luckily its only a minority.
But look at the snowbirds: they leave 1/2 the yr and then comeback. Who do you think pays when they get sick? Yes you could also argue that they've paid their dues, etc.
Dieselgino: Thanks for clarifying the EU and the passport. I thought their was now a standard passport, but I guess thats not yet.
On a sidenote: w/ a Canadian passport/citizenship, where can't you go to!?
But ya I guess some people do take it personal.
I think its a problem IF someone only say comes back if they are sick to milk the healthcare system. Luckily its only a minority.
But look at the snowbirds: they leave 1/2 the yr and then comeback. Who do you think pays when they get sick? Yes you could also argue that they've paid their dues, etc.
Dieselgino: Thanks for clarifying the EU and the passport. I thought their was now a standard passport, but I guess thats not yet.
On a sidenote: w/ a Canadian passport/citizenship, where can't you go to!?
#47
So true, with a Canadian passport you can go anywhere anyway, so for all you haters, I dont know what your problem is.
As far as people living in foreign countries and flying here for healthcare, perhaps you should start a petition and send it to the government. Honestly, I agree. If you've been out of the country for over a year, and have no place of work here, then you shouldn't be entitled to FREE health care. UNLESS, however, you still continue to pay FULL taxes. But I dont think anyone pays dual taxation.
I know in the states, you pay one or the other. And if the foreign one is more, you pay nothing, if its less, you pay the difference. Doesn't matter if your income is completely earned outside the states.
As far as people living in foreign countries and flying here for healthcare, perhaps you should start a petition and send it to the government. Honestly, I agree. If you've been out of the country for over a year, and have no place of work here, then you shouldn't be entitled to FREE health care. UNLESS, however, you still continue to pay FULL taxes. But I dont think anyone pays dual taxation.
I know in the states, you pay one or the other. And if the foreign one is more, you pay nothing, if its less, you pay the difference. Doesn't matter if your income is completely earned outside the states.
#48
dieselgino...such a law is already in place but one year sounds unreasonable...i think its five years or so but im guessing. i personally know someone who was denied.
and i agree with you fully...such people who cheat the system should have any right to get the benefits.
this is not even the bigger evil u know....another thing alot of people do is to apply for their immigration...fly to canada...land...stay for a few days like vacation...then go back home and bribe their local cusom officials not to stamp their passports. by doing this...they eliminate any trace from their passports that they actually left canada to begin with.
this goes on for 4-5 years while they travel a couple of times within the year to file taxes or whatnot...till they get the call for their citizenship.
and i agree with you fully...such people who cheat the system should have any right to get the benefits.
this is not even the bigger evil u know....another thing alot of people do is to apply for their immigration...fly to canada...land...stay for a few days like vacation...then go back home and bribe their local cusom officials not to stamp their passports. by doing this...they eliminate any trace from their passports that they actually left canada to begin with.
this goes on for 4-5 years while they travel a couple of times within the year to file taxes or whatnot...till they get the call for their citizenship.
#49
Originally posted by wajih1
^ You have it all wrong, Canada has allowed immigrants to have a dual citizenship, because in most cases they leave a lot behind when they move to Canada. In a lot of cases its immediate family, not to mention friends.
^ You have it all wrong, Canada has allowed immigrants to have a dual citizenship, because in most cases they leave a lot behind when they move to Canada. In a lot of cases its immediate family, not to mention friends.
I agree with you on this one... When my family moved over here from England it was just my mum, my dad, my sister and I. That's it, the rest of my family still lives in England. My parents passed away 4 years ago now, so it is just my little sister and I. If we didn't have the freedom to be able to go back and see our family, we would be lost. My parents moved us over here because in a lot of respects Canada is a better place to raise children and grow up in compared to England... I consider myself Canadian in most respects, but I am proud to be British.
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