you can be friends with girls, cool...but to be the guy they all go to and cry about other guys is a bad place for a guy to be...they should cry to their girl friends or gay guy friends...

 

ok ok i get what your saying... and yaaa if you are the guy all your females always run too, well then your never going to be the guy they wanna **** or go out with

your a softy and girls dont want that

sooo for once... you are right in this circumstance

 

I guess you could say I'm a softie. I like to "have fun" as much as the next guy. Why can't I be a nice guy and still have fun? It sounds to me like you're saying it has to be one or the other.

 

girls dont like softies... well they like them and they like being around them but thats not always the type of guy they want...

BUT its still overall better then being a dickface like half the guys out there

 

just cuz you wanna bang these girls etc doesnt make you a nice guy...you're probably gonna make them happier than the douchebags that make them cry to you...its about opening up their eyes to that fact

 

Oh no doubt I can make them happier than the douche bags. but that doesn't make them want to, as you put it, "bang" me.

So basically what you two are saying is it's better to be the nice guy, but the nice guy doesn't get laid.

Someone fill me in on how this is better! I'm trying to find a middle point. But I'm getting the feeling said middle point doesn't exist!

 

you have to make the middle point exist...and not by force but by finesse

 

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Doesn't work. As far as I'm concerned, the middle point doesn't exist. Once you open the door as the nice guy, you can't close it and open the putting the moves on to sleep with you door.
Once a girl pegs you for a nice guy, you're done. I can't stand to see my friends sit around and be upset. But when you're helping a friend and cheering them up, you can't go half way so as to keep your chances of scoring open. Just doesn't work. You either help them or you don't. And as I said before, their happiness means more to me than losing a friendship or part of one.

I just don't understand why there can't be a middle point. A time to help and cheer a girl up, and another day to be with her.

 

You'd be surprised.

Yes and no. Game is an extension of personality. Thus any interaction with a female will result in "gaming" to a certain extent. So in that sense, yes, it's technically always "game on". Heck, I will sometimes chat up the girl at the cash register, but really my mind is elsewhere, yet my personality will naturally convey a little bit of charm and flirtiness, thats just the type of person I am.

But no to this notion of "game on" in the sense that guys should be in a mindset where they will pounce on anything and everything that has breasts. That's just desperation, and there are guys like that. I'm sure you've met a few. Not a good trait.



[QUOTE=matt491;1423072]It's about adapting to a situation. Most guys don't know how to do this, but its not that hard. You need to simply pay attention to the girl. They drop hints in their speech, speech pattern, body language, etc. And you yourself can't be overt. Start off subtle and test the waters. One neat thing you can do for example would be to incorporate a story while you are cheering her up that is a future event involving the two of you. It can be completely irrational, but girls love stories, and you will have the benefit of being able to drop your own little subtle hints within it, or even acting some things out, introducing some touching, etc. Obviously if she is not responding well, you pull back, and this can be done in a very nice joking fashion if you were being subtle.

And yes, it can be done even if she has a boy. Maybe not a moral highlight though.

You shouldn't ever find yourself in a position where you are coming on too hard. If you are putting moves on a girl, and she doesn't want them, it's because you didn't take the time to create attraction.

Think of it this way, its like teaching a dog to sit. Your goal is to get her attracted to you (making the dog sit), when she does you reward her with affection (a doggy treat). Don't start with the treat first and expect her to comply.

 

lol

but ya ummmm your right

 

2 Join Performance,

I think every man should try and act like Conan the Cimmerian would.

You will get the women worthy of your time if you.

 

Huh.....really. You make it sound like there's plenty of women out there who would. I guess I just never meet them. I'm not here to break up a serious relationship, but if a girl is in an on again off again type, I'd go for it.

 

Hehe, there are a few. But being the rebound guy doesn't have to be your gimmick. Start hanging out with single women :P

 

Holy **** this thread has gone off topic, lol. Starts with talking about how ex's are, to now talking about how to pick them up, lol.

 

^^ Hahaha...giggity! I like where this is going

 

This whole thread makes me wanna swear off guys forever!!!!

 

Don't hate.....appreciate.....that's what I always say.
Nothing but love from me, ain't that right Sharona

 

Well except for Matt....and Dan 'cause he's so damn HOT

 

sometimes its good being the guy that girls cry on. They are extremely vulnerable at that point. You slip your hand on her boob, then down her chest to her axe wound, while nibbling on her earlobe/neck, and then she grabs your man handle and everyone wins.

 

^ brutal!!!!!