Whats that I heard on the news this morning?

G.W.Bush said that he believes Syria has W.M.D.
hmmm...
Of course, he is seeking a diplomatic solution.

Whos next, Iran? Saudi Arabia?
Or we can just go drill up the Alaskan Wildlife Refuge???

Its all good.

A big thumb up to all the pro-war people out there.

 

I think I heard them say that Syria's hiding weapons for Iraq...

 

Proof?
Do we see proof in Iraq?
The so called "Smoking Gun"?

Do you? Because I don't.
Where are the huge stockpiles of Weapons that would be used against the united states? Where is the threat the the US?

 

Give them a few more day's to plant all the stockpiles of weapons! After all we did see Iraq use all their chemical weapons against the "coalition" force's. All the reason to go after the Iraqi govt. was nothing but propiganda!

 

But of course Iraq posed an imminent threat to the US and "world" interests. That is why military action was needed.

 

stop your whining what's done is done.... i'd bet iraq does have WMD, where they are on the other hand is a different issue.... and cuz i'm pro-war i deserve a sarcastic thumb-up? here's a real one for you the US didn't just do it for themselves, it benefits all of us, and capitalism especially.....

 

^^ Werd Alex...

I'm all against the war cuz it was disguised as a war on terrorism, but I'm all for war if it's openly admitted that is plain ol' *** kicking for the sake of the capitalist world to jump start our stagnant economy thanks to all the damn tech nerds Just my .02

 

Israel has Nuclear weapons.
Why doesn't the US attack them???

 

I'm not whining, Alex.
I am confused as to what direction this "war on terrorism" is taking.

I feel that by allowing bush to go through with his unprovoked military assault, we have opened doors to future attacks.

I don't understand your point. They attacked Iraq to benefit capitalism?

So basically you're telling me to stop my whining...hmm lets see, those who were pro-German (I hate to use this example, but I will anyway) in WW2 were telling those against WW2 to STFU and stop whining when Germany invaded it's neighboring countries?
And YES it is comparable to Germany back in 1939. An uprovoked attack on it's neighbours, right? Economy was crap back then too. Can't you see the similarities.
So maybe we should all STFU and sit back and watch this crap take place?

 

hahah cuz the US gave them their weapons! hahaha that's a whole different story...

yeah bruno, i'm sure they had their morals in the war.... somewhere.... but in the end it's all about capitalism.... always! lol it's what we live our lives based on....

 

think about it... you know how capitalism works right? we have a lot because others have a little.... economics, the scarcity (?sp?) of resources...... right now there's not enought stuff in the world for everyone to have their own 3 bedroom house, with a big backyard, 50' lot 3 car garage computer and highspeed internet and the latest nike shoes... and whatever else you want to throw into it.... the middle east isn't exactly stable right now... hasn't been in a long time.... haha since civilization started... if we introduce democracy right into the center of it capitalism is next, and that's another economy to add to the world... it's really way more complicated than i've just explained it bruno maybe you want to do some more explaining! lol i'm too lazy.... and it's not the war directly that benefits the economy cuz right after a war, any war there's a small recession, it's the long run effects that help us.....

 

It isn't comparable to germany, they don't plan on staying in iraq and making it little america and purifying the aryan race.... the economy was crap back then cuz of the germans, they flooded the market with money... people were walking around the streets with wheelbarrows full of cash after WW I , their war made their economy better..... i'm not saying we should STFU, but we have to look at the gains in this.... if you hate our capitalistic society so much go live in a 3rd world country or something..... i hate to bring it to that but it's a reality.... did you fail to see the iraqi's dancing in the streets cuz they were so happy saddam was gone? i know they're not all happy but you have to realize there are two sides to the story....

 

Who are you to say what the US's plans are for Iraq?
We can all go watch some good 'ol CNN and see the "guest speakers", mostly Generals from the Pentagon loading their one-sided views.

Like I said, I know that using Germany wasn't an ideal example. It was an example nevertheless. You telling me to stop whining about it is (essentially) the same as an SS soldier telling those countrymen not for a war to shutup once they had invaded their neighbouring countries.

Listen buddy, in no part of my posts did I say I hate the capitalistic society. Making such a statement out of nowhere makes no sense.

All I'm saying is...well asking rhetorically more than saying....is who is next? Who will the US choose to be their next victim?
This is a forum and I am expressing my views, just as you are.

 

i know you're expressing your views and i'm cool with that, i never said you should STFU, maybe whining wasn't the right choice of word...... what i'm trying to convey is that it's pointless to bitch and whine over 'spilled milk' (now i know it's more serious than that but you know what i mean.... hopefully) what's done is done.....

our capitalistic society is a big reason they went to war.... people hate america because they are powerful and prosperous.... they must be doing something right, no? how was the world established? wars... they're horrible horrible things but their a fact of life....

if you don't believe what the US has said about it's plans for iraq then just wait and see i guess, why make assumptions, we all know what happens when we make assumptiong right? j/k i'm just going on what they've said so far, and in my books the US's word is worth more than saddams.... so hey why not give them the benefit of the doubt for once?

and your analogy about the SS soldier is still flawed.... it would be correct if you were an Iraqi living there right now.... you aren't the one that has been invaded, there is the flaw in your logic... many iraqi's are extreemly happy?? and what about the viewpoint that says the US is there freeing the Iraqi people, with the amount of celebration they had as the army's came through you wouldn't be able to tell they all hated the states...

in the end, i'm just glad it's over for the most part, it was quicker than most expected,


as for who's next, i guess whoever the states thinks needs to be brought down to size... i'd rather they be the 'police' of the world, than one day wake up and see half of north america blown up cuz there were no police....

 

[in the end, i'm just glad it's over for the most part, it was quicker than most expected,


as for who's next, i guess whoever the states thinks needs to be brought down to size... i'd rather they be the 'police' of the world, than one day wake up and see half of north america blown up cuz there were no police.... [/B][/QUOTE]

OK, fair enough.
I see your logic.

I'm sure after completing 4 years at school I'll be able to hold a better "debate".

 

Not surprised ......


Nothing else to say

 

Guys the reason the states went to IRAQ was to surpress a problem now rather than wait till they are a threat to the US homeland. If you have any doughts that they dont have WMD and are still looking for a smoking gun then listen to this,

Ok bro check it........I have a BRAND NEW full ball bearing Garret T3/4 turbo sitting somewhere in my house. I'll a really nice guy and will let you come look for it (IE. the UN in IRAq) If you find it then its yours but plz dont forget that im hiding it. Now u must see that i know my house alot better then you a stranger so its gonna take u along time to find it, thats if u even do right....

With this being said lets give the USA some time to look around. I find it really weird that they have had so much weapons in there schools churches and hospitals, never seen that here in canada.

As for whos next........North Korea. This is not gonna be as easy as IRAQ but i also dont think the USA will start this either. My guess is a Nuke hit in on the west coast ....anyways i hate typing
so later

 

and ya school does help debating! lol

 

what?? who said it was over..? it will NEVER end until the end of the world. as you guys said the u.s.' aim is to protect their capitalistic way of life.. what is the opposite of capitalism?

do you guys have any jewish or muslim friends? I suggest engaging in discussion with them to open your minds up a little

I'm not saying anyone is wrong or hating, just saying its not so easy to be conclusive on something like this cause we just dont have the right information.. all we know is what the media (government) tells us.

history repeats itself.. the u.s.' day will come. faster than any of us think.

 

^^^ what's jewish or muslim?? LOL j/k my room mate from school is hardcore practising muslim... I used to go to debates with him, and I used to sit with his spiritual mentor as they tried to convert me.... when they said "no sex" I was outtathere. LOL j/k we went through many many different discussions over several years... I concluded that it was "unpossible" LOL... I mean, their arguments are fraught with fallacies... like I said prove God exists, he was like "you ever been to China"; "No"; "But you think China exists"; "Yes" --> "There, I proved it to you!!!" LOL haha... it was a good laugh. Still, a good ol *** kicking is great for keeping the world on its toes. No one is against war more than I am, but what are you gonna do about it. Me, I'm just not gonna join the army.