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#21
Originally posted by Torrey
You can't do that either. In the law it states that there are fiduciary duties, one must uphold. One of them being not taking any clients with you once you leave your former employment. If clients call and inquire as to where you're new place of business is then thats a different story. If your previous employer finds out you're calling up clients, he has enough cause to sue you.
You can't do that either. In the law it states that there are fiduciary duties, one must uphold. One of them being not taking any clients with you once you leave your former employment. If clients call and inquire as to where you're new place of business is then thats a different story. If your previous employer finds out you're calling up clients, he has enough cause to sue you.
How do you think doctors, lawyers etc start up their own practices after working at big firms, and hospitals? by placing ads in the paper?
Your fiduciary duty ends to an extent when your employment ends, unless they have you sign other contracts and agreements. You can take anyone's clients if you want, you just have to know how to go about it.
either way i was making a humorous suggestion.
#22
Originally posted by SilverSiG
There are TONS of ways to get around that.
How do you think doctors, lawyers etc start up their own practices after working at big firms, and hospitals? by placing ads in the paper?
Your fiduciary duty ends to an extent when your employment ends, unless they have you sign other contracts and agreements. You can take anyone's clients if you want, you just have to know how to go about it.
either way i was making a humorous suggestion.
There are TONS of ways to get around that.
How do you think doctors, lawyers etc start up their own practices after working at big firms, and hospitals? by placing ads in the paper?
Your fiduciary duty ends to an extent when your employment ends, unless they have you sign other contracts and agreements. You can take anyone's clients if you want, you just have to know how to go about it.
either way i was making a humorous suggestion.
Whatever you say... I was taught law in lecture by a lawyer who practices for a firm in niagara falls. I'm just going by what I was taught.
#23
Originally posted by Brett
^^ You have a vaild point, and the fact of peers making more money is not my main reason for slacking off, although it is one of them. Last year after bein denied what i considered a "fair" I made and effort to see if i could get better wages by performing excellent work. so i wired eight $1 million dollar plus homes in a row without a single error or screw up. When this resulted in not even a word of thanks or appreciation from my employer just complaints about the tinest issues. After this i basically gave up and over the last six months my ethusiasm and interest for work has gone down the drain, the results of that being quite predictable. Coupled with everyone and there uncle telling me that he was underpaying me...
^^ You have a vaild point, and the fact of peers making more money is not my main reason for slacking off, although it is one of them. Last year after bein denied what i considered a "fair" I made and effort to see if i could get better wages by performing excellent work. so i wired eight $1 million dollar plus homes in a row without a single error or screw up. When this resulted in not even a word of thanks or appreciation from my employer just complaints about the tinest issues. After this i basically gave up and over the last six months my ethusiasm and interest for work has gone down the drain, the results of that being quite predictable. Coupled with everyone and there uncle telling me that he was underpaying me...
But from an employer's point of view, the idea of running a business is to maximize profit within the shortest amount of time and with the least man power. You are getting the same payroll, but he can bill you for less while he can gain the most from the client - if a budget is set. I am sure you know what I am talking about.
Underpaying is a funny concept - just how much is enough? Everyone wants a high pay job but who is going to pay for it?
Brett, I am sure with your skill, someone will employe you and appreciate your effort and skill - just like where I am now. My boss appreciates my skills and gives me a lot of work and responsibilities. I feel "important" and "useful". You know what I am saying?
The last thing you want is people telling you "how much you should get paid" because for one, they are not doing your job and second, we can't take things for granted. Just because Joe Blow is making a buck more than you are doing the same or even - worser job than you are, that still doesn't mean that you should be making the same as Joe Blow or even a dollar more than he does just because you think you can do a better job. When people compare, that's where the problem starts.
Hell, if I compare between what people do and how much they make based on stress level and hours of operation, you could have found my body in Lake Ontario 3 years ago. But I stay with my profession because I love what I do, and for every profession, there has to be someone behind it and doing the job.
#24
Originally posted by Torrey
Whatever you say... I was taught law in lecture by a lawyer who practices for a firm in niagara falls. I'm just going by what I was taught.
Whatever you say... I was taught law in lecture by a lawyer who practices for a firm in niagara falls. I'm just going by what I was taught.
either way best of luck on finding a new job
#26
unions arent all that good either. i was fired from a job for bull**** reasons and the union CAW is crap. i'm going through arbitration now and these idiots dragged this out to what will be 5 months. the company has a good lawyer, we have this union guy who does arbitration cases....yup, i know i'm alrelady ****ed.
can involve the labour board of ontario or of course sue for wrongfull dismissal. either way, just a heads up, they are in no hurry to see a fired person return to work
can involve the labour board of ontario or of course sue for wrongfull dismissal. either way, just a heads up, they are in no hurry to see a fired person return to work
#27
from pool hall junkies... "employees work hard enough to not be fired, employers pay enough so their employees don't quit"
if this is your view, that sucks.
you said yourself your work sucked... how are you surprised you were fired? get on your *** and find another job.
If you have the ability.. go somewhere else and show them how good you are. When you're making more cash (providing your putting a good effort in).. you'll see this as an experience... and won't be too bitter about it.
or you can complain, be bitter, and join a union
if this is your view, that sucks.
you said yourself your work sucked... how are you surprised you were fired? get on your *** and find another job.
If you have the ability.. go somewhere else and show them how good you are. When you're making more cash (providing your putting a good effort in).. you'll see this as an experience... and won't be too bitter about it.
or you can complain, be bitter, and join a union
#30
So true man although i've know for the last year or so... The only reason i stuck around was the shop was a 6min bike ride from my house and on top of that i worked with 15mins of the shop 80% of the time. That was the best part leave for work at 7:22 start at 7:30. I worked until five daily and i would be home by 5:30!
#33
Yeah im thinking that i wont have any issues on the job hunt. Monday morning im going to open up the phone book (to electricians)and start at A if really doubt ill make it to Z without a couple of interviews.
ModFather- I've got more then enough more laying around to finish the car! (hopefully on the road in a few weeks) My whole life has been work and save cash every since i finished with the vacation/car painting in January
ModFather- I've got more then enough more laying around to finish the car! (hopefully on the road in a few weeks) My whole life has been work and save cash every since i finished with the vacation/car painting in January
#34
good luck finding a new job...
remember before you ask for a raise...find out how much you are worth...people alway say "oh i could go here and get this much or go hear and make double" saying it doesnt make it true. If you can actually get a job that pays more that is the only time you should ask for a raise.
remember before you ask for a raise...find out how much you are worth...people alway say "oh i could go here and get this much or go hear and make double" saying it doesnt make it true. If you can actually get a job that pays more that is the only time you should ask for a raise.
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