Tish

I am glad everything's looking better now......I hope the rest of the year treats ya good.

bbarbulo

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For this reason alone, I think it would be reasonable to pass legislation to have everyone with HIV be tatooed on the wrist to identify them as HIV positive...so that it doesn't get ****** around...I think that's fair, since HIV costs medicare sooooo much money, and treatements are pretty much free in Canada, so...it's the least they could do, wear a tatoo to prevent spreading the disease. Whaddayall think?? Last think I'd want is to have a one nighter with some HIV positive girl

WNT_2_Go_Fast

Very sorry to say but that has to be one of the Stupidest things I have EVER Heard. I raelly hope your joking. I know sometime I just TYPE without thinking but are you for real.

How about you go back read what you wrote and then do this or or get someone to

Give me a Break.

bbarbulo

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Why do you think that's unfair?

cluster

Guess he's not initialed to his own opinion


And as for bbarbulo I somewhat agree

PULOVR

Lets see now.............hmmmmmmmm.......do you think it was fair for Hitler do this to the jews?

bbarbulo

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Bottom line is, if ppl knew...the disease prolly wouldn't ****** as quickly. And sometimes, some ppl aren't willing or able to come forward and say it....so a tatoo would say it for them. Or if a person is knocked out or in need of mediacal attention, like in this case, it would be easy to tell...and considering our taxes pay for health coverage, I think the majority would agree that it is for the greater good.

bbarbulo

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PULOVR, being a Jew is not a communicable, life threatening disease. HIV is...

PULOVR

Hitler thought the same thing.

What you propose goes against our rights for freedom.

As was said about a "one night stand"........if your stupid enough to have one WITHOUT a condom to reduce the risk.......then............

bbarbulo

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So you think you have freedom to ****** a known disease around...I disagree...besides, ppl's freedom gets literally taken away when they are criminals, and they are put in jail, so that right to freedom is restricted...this would just be a very minor infraction that could save hundreds of ppl from getting infected. I think if you are milking the gov't budget to get HIV treatment, then you should not complain about getting tatooed. You would only complain if you were the kind of person that wanted to ****** the disease around. It's like a flu shot...kinda...you are preventing spreading the disease. I don't think it's a big deal at all.

As for the one nighter...I wouldn't trust a thin sheet of rubber to stop HIV...I think I'd still be very concerned...as far as I'm concerned, it's only really good as a contraceptive. If I knew the person had HIV, even with a condom, I wouldn't risk it. Hence the tatoo idea.

But back to my original point...Agent Orange wasn't warned of the level of risk he was dealing with. I think if HIV positives were labeled, it would reduce the risk to good samaritans and medical staff, and pretty much anyone that would have a risk of being exposed.

I don't get it, why do you think it's such a big deal...it's not really an infringement on your freedom. Do you think license plates are an infringement on your freedom?....how about emission tests...or fingerprinting....or credit record...in a credit record, they label you as a bad credit risk....well, this would be like a bad health hazard. Get over it

[1sL0CiviC]

i was gonna post something similar, but you clearly said it better than me!
good thing i refreshed the page

cosmic zx2

why stop there..... lets tattoo everyone with cancer too....
think about it... your sex life aside... if you were ever in a position to hire someone... would you hire the girl with...or without the tattoo?
or would you let your kids play with the little kid down the street who has the 'tattoo'?
prolly not...... millions of people who have HIV/AIDS lead very normal lifes and have not infected anyone.... why force them to get a tattoo?

makes no sence to me....but hey, it's your opinion

bbarbulo

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Look, what I've been saying all along, HIV IS COMMUNICABLE!!! Cancer and other diseases are not as far as we know. So since we know this can be transferred, why not do something to stop it. Have you asked every one of your partners if she had HIV? Of course not! And even if you did, who says she'd be honest...the same goes with guys...who says they'd be honest. There has been may cases of HIV being ****** around by ppl who were really bitter that they were infected, and thought they were doing God's work by cleaning up ppl who were lusty (one of the 7 deadly sins). I bet you'd be singing a different tune if you had a close call. Lemme ask you...ever think your g/f is pregnant? You know that nerve wrecking feeling of...oh **** what have I done? Well, HIV would be 100 times worse, and there is no cure for it...where as there is abortion if you really chose you weren't ready to have a kid, but with HIV....there is no going back...it's done. Think about that.

Ok, so what if you put it on their shoulder or somewhere where it can be hidden until seeked out...would that solve your little job interview problem?

imported_Promoking

Sweet I'm not the only Jew on the board!!!


I have mixed feelings about this. Kinda on the fence. I think it's a good idea, but still it brands you as something bad/wrong. I always use rubbers, 2 just to be safe, but still, there's always that chance. I got really scared recently cause I'm pretty sure both rubbers were broken, and this was with a new partner. So **** happens, just try and be prepared for it.

bbarbulo

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Well, I'm part jewish, but since it's from my grandfathers side, we're not really recognized by the community. Cuz I'm sure as you know, it's the mother that carries the religious upbringing.

Two rubbers cause more friction between them and are more likely to break than one. I find the Trojan in the green pack with some KY jelly does the trick for reduced friction and no breaking. Hope it's all good with you...most of the time, it's not a problem. Especially if you are in a relationship, it's not likely the other person will want to harm you...but just a "partner" it's a little more risky, but still usually okay.

PULOVR

Let me tell you a little story.......

I've had many jobs over my life time.......one of them was in a bullet proof vest.

I was along for a ride in a friends "neighbourhood". we got a call for a person stabbed. We went to the scene......when we got there, there was a woman on the ground bleeding. I went back to the car to get the gloves and FA kit. When I returned, my friend said "don't worry".......I said what?!? He then whipsered to me that this girl was prostitute from the area, and she had tested positive for Aids......I didn't know what to do .......we waited for EMS to arrive, when thay got there (about 4 min later), my friend informed the crew obout the Aids thing. (now remember, this was back when we didn't know what we know know about the disease). The ambulance crew took a few more minutes to get on protective clothing......but I could see that when they started to work on the girl, they weren't REALLY trying as hard as I've seen other crews do. The girl was placed in the ambulance and taken away......we found out later that she died.

I can't help but wonder, if they had tried alittle harder, or din't take their time to put on those clothes, that this girl might still be alive.


Remeber, just because you test positive for Aids, DOESN'T mean you have the full blown desease...you are just careing the virus.


Therefore that tatoo thing would be wrong.

Kinda like saying......people that own a gun would be prone to shooting someone.


There are laws that are put into place for our own good. Some are a nusance.



If they know what the rules are, and they still CHOOSE to break them, then they forefit their rights.

That is a choice.

These are all privalages......not rights.........you are getting the two confused.


(and no, I was not a cop, but worked with them from time to time)



:editttted for speeeling...opps :

bbarbulo

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So the customers of this prostitute...do you think they may have wanted to know what they were getting themselves into?? Just think about that! She made a living knowingly spreading the disease.

Being HIV positive means you are carrying the virus...you may not get sick, but you can still pass it on...it's a loaded gun my friend.

Speaking of guns...why doesn't my right to freedom allow me to walk around nude in public, smoke bunts on the street, or carry a gun without a permit. It's only a "privilage" because the law says so...it's not like the gov't bought me a car and said..here, you are privilaged to use it...no I bought the car....I should be allowed to use it as I please.

These rules that criminals break....they are rules imposed by government, are they not? So where is our freedom to do all these things the law prohibits?? We are not entirely free man...open your eyes. I think you are confusing what a freedom and privilege is. Something is only a privilege because the gov't wants to control it...like the purchase and serving of alcohol. Should I not be free to serve alcohol to my 17 year old son if I see fit? Why is that a privilege controlled by the law?

Finally, I think spreading HIV is equivalent to manslaughter...cuz eventually, it's gonna kill you in one way or another...or at least make your life suck. It's like causing someone severe bodily harm. I don't understand how you don't see that. It's the equivalent of someone putting small doses of poison in your meal every day. Every day that goes by slowly makes you deteriorate.

cosmic zx2

wow... you make it seem like everyone with HIV spreads it around purposly

bbarbulo

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It's the few that usually ruin it for the rest not much I can do about it... but take the example of the hooker that PULOVR gave. With such a horrible disease though, you can't be too careful. Tell you what...if I had it, I'd volunteer to get tatooed. No sense in ruining other lives, knowingly or not. Just cuz you got screwed doesn't mean you should screw others.

PULOVR

It all starts with a supossedly GOOD idea.......then.....they impose another.....then another......then another......

When do you think it would not be ok? When a law hits you personally?

Do you think the "Add ons" law that they are trying to pass if fair for car lovers? I don't think it is, but yet, alot of people think that it is.


All I'm saying is that we all have right's. We all have choices. What we do with those is up to the us, the individual.


Just like it was the ems's choice to decline the flu shots......it went against thier rights to choise. Paramedics are all aware of the risks of the job......it a choice the made. They live with the fact that they can get sick from all types of deseases.

(I love this "qoute" feature)

Would you go to a prozy? If yopu did, would you want to use protection? Choice.

Go ahead.......you can do whatever pleases you, but if you know what the coincequences are, don't cry when you get arrested.

And who voted for these people in power?


We can go on and on.......but it still doesn't change that fact that tatoo would go against the persons fredom of choice.

It was the same fredom that ALL people are entitled to.


Now.....if there was a mandate set in place that stated......if a person KNOWINGLY transmits a disease with intent for malace.....and they are found in court guilty of this, and one one the avenues that the court could use would be to give the accused a choice......then I don't disagree with it.

Kinda like the choice of the guy under house arrest that has to wear a monorting sytem to keep tabs on him......or .......go to jail.

Rules are put in place to keep the public safe from themselves.