internet radio for iphone
15-Apr-2009, 10:19 AM
#81
Luka
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University Degree or equivalent in Computing preferred
4+ years of data network experience in large complex enterprise network environment
Extensive hands on experience in configuring, troubleshooting and resolving network problems
Advanced levels of core routing and switching technologies, including BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, MPLS, STP, HSRP/VRRP
Experience in managing requirements for multi-homed internet environment
Good understanding of MPLS label protocols, including LDP, RSVP and BGP VPNv4
Load balancing experience utilizing F5 LTM/GTM or Cisco CSS/CSM
Firewall configuration and troubleshooting experience
Experience in packet/protocol analysis tools such as Netflow, Sniffer or Ethereal
Experience working within a structured incident/change management environment
4+ years of data network experience in large complex enterprise network environment
Extensive hands on experience in configuring, troubleshooting and resolving network problems
Advanced levels of core routing and switching technologies, including BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, MPLS, STP, HSRP/VRRP
Experience in managing requirements for multi-homed internet environment
Good understanding of MPLS label protocols, including LDP, RSVP and BGP VPNv4
Load balancing experience utilizing F5 LTM/GTM or Cisco CSS/CSM
Firewall configuration and troubleshooting experience
Experience in packet/protocol analysis tools such as Netflow, Sniffer or Ethereal
Experience working within a structured incident/change management environment
15-Apr-2009, 10:20 AM
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15-Apr-2009, 10:23 AM
#83
Luka
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That's great, but if you had a say in any company, it would be out of business the day they hired you.
NEXT!
15-Apr-2009, 10:31 AM
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University Degree or equivalent in Computing preferred
4+ years of data network experience in large complex enterprise network environment
Extensive hands on experience in configuring, troubleshooting and resolving network problems
Advanced levels of core routing and switching technologies, including BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, MPLS, STP, HSRP/VRRP
Experience in managing requirements for multi-homed internet environment
Good understanding of MPLS label protocols, including LDP, RSVP and BGP VPNv4
Load balancing experience utilizing F5 LTM/GTM or Cisco CSS/CSM
Firewall configuration and troubleshooting experience
Experience in packet/protocol analysis tools such as Netflow, Sniffer or Ethereal
Experience working within a structured incident/change management environment
4+ years of data network experience in large complex enterprise network environment
Extensive hands on experience in configuring, troubleshooting and resolving network problems
Advanced levels of core routing and switching technologies, including BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, MPLS, STP, HSRP/VRRP
Experience in managing requirements for multi-homed internet environment
Good understanding of MPLS label protocols, including LDP, RSVP and BGP VPNv4
Load balancing experience utilizing F5 LTM/GTM or Cisco CSS/CSM
Firewall configuration and troubleshooting experience
Experience in packet/protocol analysis tools such as Netflow, Sniffer or Ethereal
Experience working within a structured incident/change management environment
hey i am not looking for one right now, but when i will then i will def touch bases with you alright.
15-Apr-2009, 10:39 AM
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So you are confirming that RIM's business model is to actually care more about their carrier deals than their customers. We all know that is Apple's policy as well.
Market share is a funny thing.
When Nerf started selling footballs, the market share for actual football manufacturers dropped.
It's not that actual footballs were declining in quality or that Nerf ***** were superior, it's just that more kids who couldn't throw or catch were getting in the game because their mom was less afraid of them hurting themselves.
Market share is a funny thing.
When Nerf started selling footballs, the market share for actual football manufacturers dropped.
It's not that actual footballs were declining in quality or that Nerf ***** were superior, it's just that more kids who couldn't throw or catch were getting in the game because their mom was less afraid of them hurting themselves.
15-Apr-2009, 10:42 AM
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Luka
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So you are confirming that RIM's business model is to actually care more about their carrier deals than their customers. We all know that is Apple's policy as well.
Market share is a funny thing.
When Nerf started selling footballs, the market share for actual football manufacturers dropped.
It's not that actual footballs were declining in quality or that Nerf ***** were superior, it's just that more kids who couldn't throw or catch were getting in the game because their mom was less afraid of them hurting themselves.
Market share is a funny thing.
When Nerf started selling footballs, the market share for actual football manufacturers dropped.
It's not that actual footballs were declining in quality or that Nerf ***** were superior, it's just that more kids who couldn't throw or catch were getting in the game because their mom was less afraid of them hurting themselves.
If a carrier won't sell your product, how are you going to survive?
You can't compare Nokia's business model to RIM's, especially because of the amount of corporate customers.
Incase you haven't noticed, carriers like to get as much money out of corporate customers as they can. You think a company like Rogers would ever offer a promo like 6GB of data for $30 to a corporate customer?
Not a chance.
As for the actual business model, if I worked in a role that had anything to do with it, I'd comment on it. I'm an IT guy, I could give a rats *** about that kind of stuff. My point was you don't know what goes on when it comes to negotiating with carriers so really you have no right to say anything about it.
15-Apr-2009, 10:49 AM
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Tried skimming through thread, but it's pulling in several directions, but as for the original topic, I've been using FlyCast app on iPhone. Free and internet radios can be had.
Easy to navigate and clean on wifi or 3G.
Easy to navigate and clean on wifi or 3G.
15-Apr-2009, 11:00 AM
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Luka,
What you're saying is correct, but you're only looking from one side, understandably.
The Canadian and US carriers are non-competitive entities, in fact your last post indicates that not only are you comfortable with that, you see it as a positive. This is not a future proof position.
Actual wireless competition is around the corner and the new companies are looking to exploit the huge inconsistencies in wireless rates that you think are so wonderful. How about unlimited voice and data for $40? What CFO could seriously brush that aside looking at hundreds of users with ever increasing data usage?
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It's great that RIM has such a cozy relationship with the carriers, but you're liable to get caught in the eventual backlash.
Tell me this: Has your company, with all of its concessions to the carriers, managed to negotiate rates which decline over time as the technologies that provide your service get cheaper?
If not, why not?
What you're saying is correct, but you're only looking from one side, understandably.
The Canadian and US carriers are non-competitive entities, in fact your last post indicates that not only are you comfortable with that, you see it as a positive. This is not a future proof position.
Actual wireless competition is around the corner and the new companies are looking to exploit the huge inconsistencies in wireless rates that you think are so wonderful. How about unlimited voice and data for $40? What CFO could seriously brush that aside looking at hundreds of users with ever increasing data usage?
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It's great that RIM has such a cozy relationship with the carriers, but you're liable to get caught in the eventual backlash.
Tell me this: Has your company, with all of its concessions to the carriers, managed to negotiate rates which decline over time as the technologies that provide your service get cheaper?
If not, why not?
15-Apr-2009, 11:34 AM
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Luka
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^^^ where did I say that I thought the rates were great?
What does RIM have to do with what carriers decide to charge for voice and data?
As far as I know, all RIM negotiates is the price of the actual phone itself.
We make, for example, Storm with WiFi. But, if Verizon wants WiFi locked down, we do it.
If a carrier comes across and says they want a Storm with everything unlocked, what's stopping us from providing that?
Nothing.
You're forgetting that we deal with hundreds of carriers around the world.
What does RIM have to do with what carriers decide to charge for voice and data?
As far as I know, all RIM negotiates is the price of the actual phone itself.
We make, for example, Storm with WiFi. But, if Verizon wants WiFi locked down, we do it.
If a carrier comes across and says they want a Storm with everything unlocked, what's stopping us from providing that?
Nothing.
You're forgetting that we deal with hundreds of carriers around the world.
15-Apr-2009, 11:52 AM
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The mindset that you're looking at this from assumes that this interdependence on carriers is perpetual. I think that it has a shelf life.
In your example above for Verizon, by locking down the wifi you make the phone inferior to their competitors phones. There is no doubt that this is beneficial to Verizon, but like I said, it's my money and I don't care about their profits.
The negotiation is taking place without me, the customer, at the table so all I really know is that the arrangement that's arrived at is bound to cost me more money in the long term. Any price discount that they give will be calculated to be more than offset by their increased revenue.
RIM is the only other person at that table and they obviously aren't representing me or my interests, so why should I give them my money?
In your example above for Verizon, by locking down the wifi you make the phone inferior to their competitors phones. There is no doubt that this is beneficial to Verizon, but like I said, it's my money and I don't care about their profits.
The negotiation is taking place without me, the customer, at the table so all I really know is that the arrangement that's arrived at is bound to cost me more money in the long term. Any price discount that they give will be calculated to be more than offset by their increased revenue.
RIM is the only other person at that table and they obviously aren't representing me or my interests, so why should I give them my money?
15-Apr-2009, 11:56 AM
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Luka
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Go ahead and don't.
There are 30 million other people who don't seem to mind.
I love when people ask me questions like it's my company.
Having a great relationship with carriers is the only way to succeed in this industry.
You need to ask yourself this: If new carriers come out and want to provide the same services at a cheaper cost, will RIM or Apple immediately want to go into business with them? And if not, would everyone immediately want to leave their current carrier in order to get a ******* phone from a carrier with cheaper service? And if they do switch, would RIM and Apple not want to go into business with them? And then would other carriers not lower their costs as well?
I wonder how many people switched to KOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
There are 30 million other people who don't seem to mind.
I love when people ask me questions like it's my company.
Having a great relationship with carriers is the only way to succeed in this industry.
You need to ask yourself this: If new carriers come out and want to provide the same services at a cheaper cost, will RIM or Apple immediately want to go into business with them? And if not, would everyone immediately want to leave their current carrier in order to get a ******* phone from a carrier with cheaper service? And if they do switch, would RIM and Apple not want to go into business with them? And then would other carriers not lower their costs as well?
I wonder how many people switched to KOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Last edited by shlammed; 15-Apr-2009 at 12:12 PM.
15-Apr-2009, 01:17 PM
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"You need to ask yourself this: If new carriers come out and want to provide the same services at a cheaper cost, will RIM or Apple immediately want to go into business with them? And if not, would everyone immediately want to leave their current carrier in order to get a ******* phone from a carrier with cheaper service?"
You see, there's the key difference between our viewpoints:
I would never buy a phone that I could not take to another carrier. You would be paying money for something that isn't really yours, which is my primary complaint about Apple and RIM.
I also would not use a carrier that didn't allow you to use a compatible phone of your own providence.
You see, there's the key difference between our viewpoints:
I would never buy a phone that I could not take to another carrier. You would be paying money for something that isn't really yours, which is my primary complaint about Apple and RIM.
I also would not use a carrier that didn't allow you to use a compatible phone of your own providence.
15-Apr-2009, 01:21 PM
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Luka
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???
both can be used on other networks if they are unlocked.
i.e. people using the original iPhone on Rogers when it was exclusive to AT&T.
The Storm is a world phone and can be used on pretty much any network.
It all depends on whether your device is sim locked/branded or not.
both can be used on other networks if they are unlocked.
i.e. people using the original iPhone on Rogers when it was exclusive to AT&T.
The Storm is a world phone and can be used on pretty much any network.
It all depends on whether your device is sim locked/branded or not.
Last edited by shlammed; 15-Apr-2009 at 01:28 PM.
15-Apr-2009, 01:56 PM
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what are they calling BB in russia? i heard they have a dif name for it..........
also heard that russian gov asked rim to give them access or have tools in place on the servers to monitor all the activity.
put some light on this i would like to know more/
also heard that russian gov asked rim to give them access or have tools in place on the servers to monitor all the activity.
put some light on this i would like to know more/
