iphones bring down the wireless network at Duke?
22-Jul-2007, 09:44 PM
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iphones bring down the wireless network at Duke?
http://blogs.business2.com/apple/200...ystery-so.html
Then read the MacDailyNews
http://www.macdailynews.com/index.ph...ssue_at_fault/
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SO ****ing hate Duke....looks soooooo good on them!
Try a real University like
some comments I personally liked from Mac faithful
There's relief at Apple (AAPL) and a lot of red faces at Cisco (CSCO) and Duke University today.
It may take longer to repair bruised feelings among the Apple faithful. The moral the editors of MacDailyNews drew from the episode is unprintable, even with the expletives abbreviated. The site provides e-mail address and phone numbers for the president of Duke and three IT officials, presumably for the benefit of readers who might want to make their feelings known
http://www.macdailynews.com/index.ph...ssue_at_fault/
Moral of the story: In any way, shape, or form, STFU until you know WTF you're talking about.
Try a real University like
some comments I personally liked from Mac faithful
Comment from: letter to the tard:
You, sir, are a big moron. Next time you feel a need to talk all big-headed about a technical issue please refrain and talk about your GI Joe action figures instead. Get a job at Mc Donalds 'cuz I want your job and feel more capable of being a benefit to Duke University than you will ever be you sweaty stoked pig!
If we lived in Turkey I'd stab you in the mouth.
You, sir, are a big moron. Next time you feel a need to talk all big-headed about a technical issue please refrain and talk about your GI Joe action figures instead. Get a job at Mc Donalds 'cuz I want your job and feel more capable of being a benefit to Duke University than you will ever be you sweaty stoked pig!
If we lived in Turkey I'd stab you in the mouth.
Comment from: Well, of course.
How could it have been the iPhone? It's perfect.
If the iPhone were an animal it would be a panda. Pandas are cute.
How could it have been the iPhone? It's perfect.
If the iPhone were an animal it would be a panda. Pandas are cute.
Comment from: theloniousMac
It's the Human Network at work. Maybe they should get rid of the humans and buy some routers.
It's the Human Network at work. Maybe they should get rid of the humans and buy some routers.
22-Jul-2007, 11:27 PM
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i had a funny situation with the iPhone we have at work
it completely froze so my first thought was ok, give it a few seconds...nothing
second thought, ok, do a soft reset, *pushes keys*, soft reset doesnt work
third though, do a hard reset by pulling the battery, OOPS, the battery isnt removable
Luka has to wait hours and hours for the battery to die so that the iPhone can reset and he can play with it again
iPhone ftw!
it completely froze so my first thought was ok, give it a few seconds...nothing
second thought, ok, do a soft reset, *pushes keys*, soft reset doesnt work
third though, do a hard reset by pulling the battery, OOPS, the battery isnt removable
Luka has to wait hours and hours for the battery to die so that the iPhone can reset and he can play with it again
iPhone ftw!
24-Jul-2007, 04:02 PM
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Researchers hack into iPhone via Web
Associated Press Newswires
Jul 24 2007
Hackers could take control of an iPhone if its owner visits a doctored Web site or Internet hotspot, security researchers reported Monday.
The vulnerability of the vaunted device, Apple Inc.'s first cell phone, is only theoretical for now. There are no reports of criminals actually taking advantage of the security glitch to remotely access an iPhone.
But if it were exploited, hijacked iPhones could be very useful to the same gangs that take over personal computers and use them to disseminate spam, said Charlie Miller, principal security analyst at Independent Security Evaluators, which discovered the flaw.
"You could have a million iPhones dialing the company's main line and overwhelm it that way," Miller said.
In addition, hijacked iPhones could be used to send spam by cell-phone text message, which computers generally can't. Any personal data on the phones, such as private phone numbers and text messages, would be accessible as well.
The flaw applies not only to the iPhone, which was launched just three weeks ago, but also to Apple computers running Mac OS and the company's Safari Web browser, a version of which comes with the iPhone. It does not affect Safari running on Microsoft Corp.'s Windows systems.
The researchers at Baltimore-based ISE haven't released the specifics of the vulnerability to the public, but have provided details to Apple and supplied the company with a patch, a software update for plugging the hole.
On Aug. 2, Miller will present details of the flaw at the Black Hat USA hacker conference in Las Vegas and online. That will make it easier for criminals to replicate the exploit, but he stressed that it should also be easy for Apple to release a patch to all its users before then. The iPhone and Macintosh computers are configured to receive software updates automatically from Apple.
"Hopefully, on Aug. 2, nothing happens: we release the information, everyone's patched and that's it," Miller said.
Apple spokeswoman Lynn Fox said Apple is looking into ISE's report, but would not say if there are plans for a patch.
"We always welcome feedback on our security," Fox said.
Miller said the flaw did not necessarily reflect badly on Apple.
"I'm sure that if you put any sort of mobile device that's complex enough in front of me, we'd find pretty much the same thing," he said. At the same time, "the security of the iPhone is not as good as the security of the Mac desktop, and I think that's something they need to work on."
Miller and the rest of the ISE team, which included Jake Honoroff and Joshua Mason, discovered holes in the security of the iPhone within minutes of getting their hands on their boss' phone.
"He didn't really want to let us do it, but eventually he gave in, and we poked around with it for a few minutes, and already saw some things that could make the programs crash," Miller said.
Their technique, called "fuzzing," involves sending lots of random or improperly formatted data to a device, and noting what causes crashes or other problems that could be openings to sending code that takes over the device.
To protect an iPhone against this and similar future vulnerabilities, the ISE team recommends that users only visit sites they trust, not open Web sites from e-mails and not use unfamiliar Wi-Fi hotspots.
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Associated Press Newswires
Jul 24 2007
Hackers could take control of an iPhone if its owner visits a doctored Web site or Internet hotspot, security researchers reported Monday.
The vulnerability of the vaunted device, Apple Inc.'s first cell phone, is only theoretical for now. There are no reports of criminals actually taking advantage of the security glitch to remotely access an iPhone.
But if it were exploited, hijacked iPhones could be very useful to the same gangs that take over personal computers and use them to disseminate spam, said Charlie Miller, principal security analyst at Independent Security Evaluators, which discovered the flaw.
"You could have a million iPhones dialing the company's main line and overwhelm it that way," Miller said.
In addition, hijacked iPhones could be used to send spam by cell-phone text message, which computers generally can't. Any personal data on the phones, such as private phone numbers and text messages, would be accessible as well.
The flaw applies not only to the iPhone, which was launched just three weeks ago, but also to Apple computers running Mac OS and the company's Safari Web browser, a version of which comes with the iPhone. It does not affect Safari running on Microsoft Corp.'s Windows systems.
The researchers at Baltimore-based ISE haven't released the specifics of the vulnerability to the public, but have provided details to Apple and supplied the company with a patch, a software update for plugging the hole.
On Aug. 2, Miller will present details of the flaw at the Black Hat USA hacker conference in Las Vegas and online. That will make it easier for criminals to replicate the exploit, but he stressed that it should also be easy for Apple to release a patch to all its users before then. The iPhone and Macintosh computers are configured to receive software updates automatically from Apple.
"Hopefully, on Aug. 2, nothing happens: we release the information, everyone's patched and that's it," Miller said.
Apple spokeswoman Lynn Fox said Apple is looking into ISE's report, but would not say if there are plans for a patch.
"We always welcome feedback on our security," Fox said.
Miller said the flaw did not necessarily reflect badly on Apple.
"I'm sure that if you put any sort of mobile device that's complex enough in front of me, we'd find pretty much the same thing," he said. At the same time, "the security of the iPhone is not as good as the security of the Mac desktop, and I think that's something they need to work on."
Miller and the rest of the ISE team, which included Jake Honoroff and Joshua Mason, discovered holes in the security of the iPhone within minutes of getting their hands on their boss' phone.
"He didn't really want to let us do it, but eventually he gave in, and we poked around with it for a few minutes, and already saw some things that could make the programs crash," Miller said.
Their technique, called "fuzzing," involves sending lots of random or improperly formatted data to a device, and noting what causes crashes or other problems that could be openings to sending code that takes over the device.
To protect an iPhone against this and similar future vulnerabilities, the ISE team recommends that users only visit sites they trust, not open Web sites from e-mails and not use unfamiliar Wi-Fi hotspots.
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24-Jul-2007, 04:21 PM
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its a computer, all computers have holes...
nobody makes a big deal when the 193834903859th windows hole/bug is found, 1 is found in the first release of the iphone seems hardly a concern...
nobody makes a big deal when the 193834903859th windows hole/bug is found, 1 is found in the first release of the iphone seems hardly a concern...
24-Jul-2007, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by shlammed
p.s. was it you who was arguing with me about the battery issue?
cuz my post in this thread surely won that argument for me LOL
p.s. was it you who was arguing with me about the battery issue?
cuz my post in this thread surely won that argument for me LOL
I was just saying battery life based on what I've read other places, I haven't even seen the phone yet, lol...
25-Jul-2007, 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by viper_2_4
is this what you tried?
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2489/iphone_hard_reset
is this what you tried?
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2489/iphone_hard_reset
25-Jul-2007, 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by viper_2_4
Luka, you'll like this:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/25...ek-comparison/
Luka, you'll like this:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/25...ek-comparison/
as i said its nothing but a good looking phone that does 1/2 the **** a blackberry does
and it will get worse for them when they release the curve with wifi and the komet with wifi and not just the 8820
also, its not like we're going to sit here and not further develop our multimedia interfaces, etc. so in the end that might not even be a deciding factor either.
