and this is why i was *****ing about no removable battery:


The iPhone’s non-replaceable battery will cost you quite a bundle, so be sure to follow Apple’s advice on making your iPhone battery last as long as possible. Taking care of your iPhone battery is similar to taking care of your iPod battery. Keep at room temperature, update on the latest software, charge after every full use, etc. (more here). If you don’t and your iPhone battery has stopped working like it should, here’s what to expect. Basic battery repair is $79 plus an additional $6.95 for shipping. The total: $85.95. And that’s not all. When your battery is replaced, it will erase all your data, so you need to back it up by syncing with iTunes. Battery replacement and data loss will take three days.

 

all i heard from that was :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

 

hahahahhahahhah


anyways, to Luka's comment:

That is exactly how the current iPod (all of them) is, and people don't seem to mind that much. As well, I think I had to replace 1 battery on all the mobile phones I've had (old NiCad battery on an old Nokia). Every other one I usually replace the phone before the battery starts to die (I still have a Treo 600 sitting in my room which still gets decent battery life, interestingly the Treo 600 had a non user replacable battery.)

 

To be fair though, you use your cellphone and it is on way logner than your ipod is on throughout a day.

 

I agree, most people don't leave thier ipod on in the middle of the night, lol...

although having said that, I can get 3-4 days out of my phone with my usage (which includes calls, sms, wifi, email)...

say you can squeze 2 days out of the iphone (seems very conservative, based on what I've been reading about the stats), that means you would use 183 charges a year...I think the iphone has been rated at 300-400 a year...so you are pretty close to that "2 year mark", which interestingly enough is the term length for the iphone...seems like a non replaceable battery isn't a huge issue...besides changing the battery on teh go, which you could get an external charger (as they have for ipods)

 

it doesn't matter

you can't base things on if's

IF you had an iPhone and your battery died I guarantee you'd be pissed off.

Just the possibility of it happening is good enough to not design the phone that way.

Also, it doesn't have to blow up. The battery's lose their ability to hold their charge after a while too. Instead of buying a new battery for peanuts you have to get it serviced.

Pretty stupid IMO.

 

Look at wht the iPhone is meant to do. You think the battery will last that long when people start throwing music and videos into the mix?

doubt it.

 

 

the engadget review was really good actually...

"The biggest upshot we found on the media playback, though, was the iPhone's Herculean battery life. We've seen other reviews' media playback results vary, but ours seemed to jump far ahead of even Apple's lofty expectations.

Playing relatively high bitrate VGA H.264 videos, our iPhone lasted almost exactly 9 freaking hours of continuous playback with cell and WiFi on (but Bluetooth off). Yeah, we had to pick our jaws up off the floor, too. So by our tests, you could watch a two hour movie and drain off a little more than 22% of the battery -- totally acceptable for trip-taking and the like.

Our music testing showed similarly outstanding results. Playing back 160-192Kbps MP3s, our iPhone pushed about 29 hours and 30 minutes music playback. To put that in perspective, the Apple claims the iPod nano gets about 24 hours playback on a full charge, and the iPod a scant 14 - 20 hours.
"

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/03/i...l-safari-ipod/

I was pretty impressed when I saw that..

 

http://www.shopblackberry.com/_black...cessories&pid=

blackberry battery is like $50 US, so another $30 jump isn't huge considering they will probably just give you a refurb anyways (no scratches after 2 years of use then) and installed...

 

who keeps a phone longer than a year anyways?

 

50?

You can get them for way less than that

 

A lot of people do

The average consumer doesn't change phones every year

 

Ps I'm replying from my pearl

If I was doing this on that piece of **** touch screen it would probably take half an hour


Hahah

 

meh, I still want one...when they will work in canada that is...

 

when are they due here anyway?

 

ya, but thats what it costs from RIM, apples to apples...

 

they probably change it at the end of their contract...

 

ya it definitly has its flaws, but does look like an excellent personal phone...I'll probably get one when it can work in canada (a provide picks it up, or hackers find a way to unlock it and use it on other providers)...

 

and most people dont get 1 year contracts

especially when phones are so much cheaper with longer contracts

a lot of people do hardware upgrades but im pretty sure most carriers dont do those for free after just 1 year