Originally posted by dingus8
ya but irc is pointless for most cause it woudl be impossible to understand for a newb...I never took the tiem to use it but saw frieds and it looked to complicated and I'm a lazy guy...it seemed stupid adn hard and I even was takign computer systems technology at the time...

Originally posted by dingus8
irc is way to primative...I like easy and quick...I had mirc back in the day and never used it ever...mayeb 3 times..that was in 1997

Originally posted by 94EG6HB
Bittorrent.

Originally posted by gatherer
MIRC for me .... personally it's way better organized people take time to organize their files into Albums and stuff... way easier to get what you want because once you've downloaded the music it's ussually 99% of the time the correct song and not a badly named file.... most files are correctly named....

anyways for a price I'll gladly show people how to use Mirc

A desperate American recording industry is waging a fierce fight
against digital copyright infringement seemingly oblivious to the
fact that, for practical purposes, it lost the digital music sharing
fight over five years ago. In Canada.



"On March 19, 1998, Part VIII of the (Canadian) Copyright Act
dealing with private copying came into force. Until that time, copying
any sound recording for almost any purpose infringed copyright, although,
in practice, the prohibition was largely unenforceable. The amendment
to the Act legalized copying of sound recordings of musical works onto
audio recording media for the private use of the person who makes the
copy (referred to as "private copying"). In addition, the amendment made
provision for the imposition of a levy on blank audio recording media to
compensate authors, performers and makers who own copyright in eligible
sound recordings being copied for private use."

-- Copyright Board of Canada: Fact Sheet: Private Copying 1999-2000 Decision



The Copyright Board of Canada administers the Copyright Act and sets the
amount of the levies on blank recording media and determines which media
will have levies imposed. Five years ago this seemed like a pretty good deal
for the music industry: $0.77 CDN for a blank CD and .29 a blank tape,
whether used for recording music or not. Found money for the music moguls
who had been pretty disturbed that some of their product was being burned
onto CDs. To date over 70 million dollars has been collected through the levy
and there is a good possibility the levy will be raised and extended to MP3
players, flash memory cards and recordable DVDs sometime in 2003.



While hardware vendors whine about the levy, consumers seem fairly indifferent.
Why? Arguably because the levy is fairly invisible - just another tax in an
overtaxed country. And because it makes copying music legal in Canada.



A year before Shawn Fanning invented Napster, these amendments to Canada's Copyright Act were passed with earnest lobbying from the music business. The amendments were really about home taping. The rather cumbersome process of ripping a CD and then burning a copy was included as afterthought to deal with this acme of the digital revolution. The drafters and the music industry lobbyists never imagined full-on P2P access.



As the RIAA wages its increasingly desperate campaign of litigation in terrorum to try to take down the largest American file sharers on the various P2P networks, it seems to be utterly unaware of the radically different status of private copying in Canada.



This is a fatal oversight, because P2P networks are international. While the Digital Millennium Copyright Act may make it illegal to share copyright material in America, the Canadian Copyright Act expressly allows exactly the sort of copying which is at the base of the P2P revolution.



In fact, you could not have designed a law which more perfectly captures the peer to peer process. "Private copying" is a term of art in the Act. In Canada, if I own a CD and you borrow it and make a copy of it that is legal private copying; however, if I make you a copy of that same CD and give it to you that would be infringement. Odd, but ideal for protecting file sharers.



Every song on my hard drive comes from a CD in my collection or from a CD in someone else's collection which I have found on a P2P network. In either case I will have made the copy and will claim safe harbor under the "private copying" provision. If you find that song in my shared folder and make a copy this will also be "private copying." I have not made you a copy, rather you have downloaded the song yourself.



The premise of the RIAA's litigation is to go after the "supernodes," the people who have thousands, even tens of thousands of songs on their drives and whose big bandwidth allows massive sharing. The music biz has had some success bringing infringement claims under the DMCA. Critically, that success and the success of the current campaign hinges on it being a violation of the law to "share" music. At this point, in the United States, that is a legally contested question and that contest may take several years to fully play out in the Courts.



RIAA spokesperson Amanda Collins seemed unaware of the situation in Canada. "Our goal is deterrence. We are focused on uploaders in the US. Filing lawsuits against individuals making files available in the US."



Which will be a colossal waste of time because in Canada it is expressly legal to share music. If the RIAA were to somehow succeed in shutting down every "supernode" in America all this would do is transfer the traffic to the millions of file sharers in Canada. And, as 50% of Canadians on the net have broadband (as compared to 20% of Americans) Canadian file sharers are likely to be able to meet the demand.



The Canada Hole in the RIAA's strategic thinking is not likely to close. While Canadians are not very keen about seeing the copyright levy extended to other media or increased, there is not much political traction in the issue. There is no political interest at all in revisiting the Copyright Act. Any lobbying attempt by the RIAA to change the copyright rules in Canada would be met with a howl of anger from nationalist Canadians who are not willing to further reduce Canada's sovereignty. (These folks are still trying to get over NAFTA.)



Nor are there any plausible technical fixes short of banning any connections from American internet users to servers located in Canada.



As the RIAA's "sue your customer" campaign begins to run into stiffening opposition and serious procedural obstacles it may be time to think about a "Plan B". A small levy on storage media, say a penny a megabyte, would be more lucrative than trying to extract 60 million dollars from a music obsessed, file sharing, thirteen year-old.



If American consumers objected -- well, the music biz could always follow Southpark's lead and burst into a chorus of "Blame Canada". Hey, we can take it….We'll even lend you Anne Murray

Originally posted by 00 Civic SiR
How about you show us how to use mIRC for free...?

Originally posted by 94EG6HB
Bittorrent.

Originally posted by PULOVR
Is 2.41 below 2.5?