imported_Bruce Fee

where do you draw the line?

we can test things on animals and save thousands of human lives.

but what right do we have testing on primates or lower level animals?

i personally think we should test everything on convicted rapists, pedofiles, serial killers, george bush, and such.

human test subjects would give much more accurate results and we wouldn't be hurting 'innocent' animals.

imported_ERTW

I agree.. those who do not respect the rights of others give up their own personal rights and should redeem themselves by sacrificing their bodies for the greater good.

Whiplash

yuppers!!!

why mess with Mickey when ya can pay back Jack

imported_Shazza

but we already do medical research on humans; drugs don't reach the market unless tested on humans first.

stock94block

true, but the initial testing to develop the drug is done on animals.

and i dont think humans are top of the food chain, i'm pretty sure a tiger could whoop my ***.

imported_Shazza

well, it's actually faster and cheaper to test on animals.

btw, initial testing is done in vitro as well as in cell lines and animals.

pain2bare

I can tell you that I don't agree with animal testing but since I'm asthmatic and know animals played a part in the testing of the medicine I use, who am I to say shiat. As for the use on convicts, go for it as long as there is no doubt they commited the crime they are in for.

imported_Shazza

imported_Bruce Fee

i mean like hardcore testing. not just drug tests.

genetic experimentation.

Brett

^^ I wrote an essay in highschool saying something similar Bruce. Then my teacher would not mark it cuz she disagreed with what i had to say.

imported_Bruce Fee

haha. i was asked to rewrite an essay as well. apparantly my teacher found my views regarding foreign aid and policies disturbing. hahahah

Si98

animals still cost money. jailbirds are free.

nashall

even though you are in jail you still have rights.....why do you think Alcatraz was closed down

imported_Bruce Fee

i'm not saying everybody in jail.

like a professional bank robber or whatever.. those people are okay.. i'm talking about thrill killers... pedofiles.. people that you don't really want integrating into society.

people who have killed in the line of duty.. it's kind of their job.. so it's a little different.. i think so at least...

they will still cost money.. but at least instead of just taking away from society.. they will be giving..

like imagine how many people can be saved by harvesting organs from a rapist. bone marrow... muscle tissue.. a heard.. kidney.. so many things..

nashall

but again its there choice, like its your choice to donate your organs if you die

imported_Bruce Fee

yeah.. i don't think they should have the choice... that's the whole point of this thread...

imported_Shazza

but the equipment, drugs, supplies, staff, and especially time would cost MUCH MUCH more if humans are used. it's not free to run experiments u know if that were the case, i'd be conducting the most ridiculous experiments in my lab and hire a bunch of assisstants.

imported_Shazza

lol

nashall

now if you think about it.....how about the mental hospitals....i think they are testing on them....everyday this drug and that drug....you cant tell me someone needs 30 diffrent drugs to seatle down

SugaDaddy

HELL YA...I AGREE do the testing on the "Bush", rapists, pedophiles etc. people who are in JAIL FOR LIFE, NO PAROLE...
all those in jail, they get paid for sitting in jail, some when they come out, they have degrees in law, everything, while we work, we are paying them to sit in jail and get degrees for FREE, while we have to pay for our education...