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And remember ... Most individuals in prison are for property crime. Violent crime accounts for 10%

electronblue

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According to Corrections Canada it was 12% in 2003.

Corrections Canada

My solution is to scrap the YOA (Young Offenders Act), actually remove violent crimes from the protection of the YOA. Set out strict punishments for violent crime, let the people know what they are, and be consistent in administering them.

Double_B

Responsible for your own actions, what a concept. I totally agree with abolishing the YOA. Too many kids use that to their advantage and learn nothing of their actions and need to deal with the concequences of their actions.

Also, parent's need to be accountable for some of it as well, up until their kids are legally considered adults. Too many parents wanting to shift the blame for the actions of their kids.

civicnation

sadly i live in rexdale. this is probably one of the few shootings that make it into the media. shootings go unreported daily, possibly because no one witnesses half of them. rexdale is a slum and no amount of policing and after school activities will stop the senseless murders. no matter what initiatives are taken to curb violence or murders, nothing will alleviate the problem. i can't see it getting much worse, but that would give too much credit to the ****ers that have ruined this part of etobicoke. i am honestly glad i am moving north because i would never want my kids to grow up in such an area. gone is the rexdale i grew up in where i could safely play in the front yard as a kid.

imported_JusBlaze

You guys are taking this **** waaaay to serious. At the end of the day, the GTA has 4,000,000 people and about 50 get shot. Big **** who gives a ****.

The chances of you getting shot here are pretty low. If you fear for your life, leave. The problem will deal with itself, it always does. Beef in the hood will relax, it always tends to relax, and all you people can start bitching about smoking in clubs and gas prices again.

imported_Zyepher

LEITNER

doesnt it bug people that the respect for a single life has been lost? michelle is totally on here, dicipline begins in the house. my kids are my responsibility not the governments. its up to me to instill morals and good temprement in my children and then hope that will ring in thier heads if ever they are in a situation which if i raised them right they will never be in. i think corpral punishment is something they need to look into. give any petty criminal 5 lashes with a cane and see if he steals again. jail isnt discipline its a holding cell till the next crime. people seem to have too many rights.

imported_whosyodaddy16

i disagree with the poor use of police resources, but I do feel that there need to be more police in toronto to help combat crime. last night when the midnight shift of police in scarboroughs 41 division came on shift there were already 37 calls outstanding. thing is more cops = more money = more taxes.
b. some people view welfare as a way of life. i wont debate this cuz i hate the whole sociology topic in general
c. i believe more in desensitization from media. i dont think these people realize exactly what they are doing. I blame the parents.
but really taking the guns off the street sounds great. but if your pissed off enuff to take someones life your going to find a way, be it a knife or hit them with your car or poisoned heineken.

imported_whosyodaddy16

sure it would end with the last man standing. these shootings arent random. im voting for whoever tables the 10 year minimum for crimes committed with guns. this community fuzzy friendly policing is bull****. but police cant do their job without help they need people in the know to help rid there communities of the pieces of **** who live there.

imported_Bruce Fee

YOA---

i have two friends who were charged with the YOA when they were 16 and 17.

one is a senior engineer and a biotech company and the other is a bonded accountant with a designation.

we're young and stupid when we're young and stupid.

---we don't need more cops. we need better parenting and better education for everyone. I remember a time when being 'gangster' wasn't the coolest.

I blame this all on the original Transformers and GI Joe no longer being shown on TV.

stock94block

it's a big deal because the same god damn young people are doing it, over and over and over again. You want us to leave? That should fix things right? We just give up and let the troubled areas get worse.

I know both of you wont care until one of your friends gets shot in the face over a stupid argument...not in my backyard right?

imported_whosyodaddy16

GI joe is too violent. kids are going to want to join the military and shoot things cuz they see it on tv.

imported_Bruce Fee

i'd rather my kids play violent games and realise it's make believe then watch some stupid purple dinosaur sing about love.

i like watching violence. i don't want to join the military.

and people call me a big kid. haha

toronto is likely only to get worse. the bigger toronto becomes.... and more american toronto becomes... the more of this you can expect

B18C5er

I've always wondered how the world would be if those shows were still on TV. Many of you might think we're dumb for thinking these shows could have impacted anything but they do. Back in the day when shows like this on TV, were the shining days of a whole different generation. People weren't half as violent as they are now. It makes me wonder about what goes through the heads of those pieces of human garbage. Toting a gun makes you cool? I think not. In the eyes of anyone civil, you are nothing but a waste of life. The only people that should have guns IMO are the police and other similar authority figures.

Kids used to play outside a hell of a lot more, now lots of parents are scared to let their kids play in the front yard. I know in my area they are, due to the driveby that happened at the house directly across from mine. The streets were filled with kids playing outside when that happened. Since then, you barely saw anyone come out anymore. Toronto is slowly but surely turning into a he|| hole. We need to fix these problems as swiftly as possible. My vote is on harsher punishments. If you are caught with using a gun, intent to use a gun or threatening people with a gun, then much harsher punishments are needed. We need to scare everyone into realizing what can happen if you are charged with a gun crime. It doesn't end at guns, there is just generally more violence flowing through the streets.

That's all for now, class time.

This is a very interesting thread btw.

Cheers

imported_Bruce Fee

I don't think they impacted me in a bad way at all.

Dunno if you noticed, but GI Joe used laser instead of guns for some odd reason. I used to be the kid who would cheer on Freddy or Jason. I used to have tons of replica guns and I used to play with them for hours on end.

I have no desire to kill or maim any living thing (unless I'm gonna eat it). I realize the difference between play time and not. I'm sure many of you are the same.

Just because you play Need for Speed Underground doesn't mean you're going to start racing your car.

How many of you have played Leisure Suit Larry... you ever try and go get a hooker because of it?

I promise you I could kill at least 50 people in a day before I went out with a bang. A lot of people can. For example, the Trenchcoat Mafia guys were garbage. "military precision shooting" my a.ss. Look at how many bullets they used and how many people they killed.

The fact is that we all have the potential to cause great harm. However, most of us do not do it. Why, because we're not all a.ssholes.

only a small percentage of the population would murder someone cause they be gettin dissed. we're not all like that. eventually we'll get rid of them, or we'll all be dead. so it's okay.

B18C5er

I agree/relate with everything you just said I loved G.I. Joe and Transformers. I also used to play with toy guns, and I also have no desire to even inflict any sort of harm on anyone.

As for the NFS/Leisure Suit Larry, I too have played those and have no desire to street race or pick up hookers.

You have made some very nice points.

Cheers

Double_B

This whole idea of what you watch on TV is what you will become is a load of crap. Wake up! If you're parents, teachers and the adults in your life do not instill in you what is right or wrong or give you half decent values, then they are the one's to blame. Parents have a great responsibility on what and how their kids turn out. I have watch tons of movies when I was a kid/teenager and I haven't broken any laws by killing anyone or rob anyone, the list goes on. If that theory is true, then we are all facked and let just end the world now.

imported_hdave

theres also a bunch of kids with good parents / teachets / etc.. that still end up messed up.

i think its got something to do with schools too, something to do with who u hang out with and what they do etc etc..

it cant only be blamed on authority figures.
but theres also a bunch of kids who hang out with bad kids and still turn out good.

so who knows... its all confusing

B18C5er

I agree with the fact that it has everything to do with who you hang out with. Your parents can try to condition you to be the best human being on this earth, but once you leave your house for the day and go hang out with a bunch of 'thugs' at school or whatnot, everything changes.

imported_Bruce Fee

yeah, there is also the part where the murderer is the sh.thead.

personal responsibility. remember?

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i have had friends in jail. i have partied with thugs. i am not one.

we are supposed to be individuals. we can do our own thing.

unless you're a sheep.