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Old 17-May-2007 | 04:52 AM
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Natives going to far?

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So land claims and negotiations arent working very great for them huh..

so I guess they have to resort to this?

An Internet how-to video on sabotaging railway lines in support of Native land claims
Old 17-May-2007 | 09:44 AM
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"Native leaders have warned of possible violence this summer stemming from frustration over land claims and perceived government disregard for persistent high levels of First Nations poverty."

Someone should point that to native leaders that post secondary education is free for them and they don't have to pay a lot of taxes like everyone else once he's done his rounds huffing burning plastic coke bottles into his lungs.

I blame poverty on the stupidity of the community. If immigrants can come here with nothing and become succesfful, so can someone with nothing but advantages over the immigrant.

I think the natives should be rounded up and shipped off to mexico. they will fit in quite well over there.
Old 17-May-2007 | 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Bruce Fee
"Native leaders have warned of possible violence this summer stemming from frustration over land claims and perceived government disregard for persistent high levels of First Nations poverty."

Someone should point that to native leaders that post secondary education is free for them and they don't have to pay a lot of taxes like everyone else once he's done his rounds huffing burning plastic coke bottles into his lungs.

I blame poverty on the stupidity of the community. If immigrants can come here with nothing and become succesfful, so can someone with nothing but advantages over the immigrant.

I think the natives should be rounded up and shipped off to mexico. they will fit in quite well over there.
hey we already stole 90% of their land, amongst other atrocities why not just take the rest and give them the boot eh.
Old 17-May-2007 | 10:30 AM
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hey we already stole 90% of their land, amongst other atrocities why not just take the rest and give them the boot eh.
what happened 200+ years ago does not justify the actions of someone who was born in this generation.
Old 17-May-2007 | 10:39 AM
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You guys haven't seen natives unless you come to North Bay.. I go to school with a lot of natives in North Bay, not only do they don't have to pay for school, they get an monthly allowance.
Old 17-May-2007 | 10:39 AM
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what happened 200+ years ago does not justify the actions of someone who was born in this generation.
the negative impact of how they were and still are treated, leads to frustration and desperation. You cant just write it off as just something that happened 200+ years ago. There is alot of distrust for the system there, and rightfully so, you trying trusting a country that has ****ed over generations of your people over and over again.

I am in no way shape or form condoning the sabotage, but I can certainly understand their frustration.
Old 17-May-2007 | 10:44 AM
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hey we already stole 90% of their land, amongst other atrocities why not just take the rest and give them the boot eh.
i don't want to give them anything, not even a boot.

How did 'we' steal anything? I'm first generation Canadian. The only atrocity is what 'our' government lets them get away with and doesn't put them in their place when they act up on 'our' land.

people who make nothing of themselves are useless. go to a native reserve and check it out. none of them plan on become nuclear physicists.

There are 12 year old walking around drunk.
Old 17-May-2007 | 10:46 AM
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still it was 200 years ago... hell black people got treated worse most recently and they've come further than that... oh wait that's cuz all they got was equality not a free ride... the problem lies with the fact that they get so many advantages over the rest of society - free school, no taxes, monthly allowances etc etc etc they don't know what else to do with themselves...

if they had to work 40-60 hours a week just to survive like many lower to lower middle class families have to - they'd have less time to worry about derailing trains etc..

i'm with bruce on this one - they have so many advantages but they always want more...
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Old 17-May-2007 | 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Crazed
the negative impact of how they were and still are treated, leads to frustration and desperation. You cant just write it off as just something that happened 200+ years ago. There is alot of distrust for the system there, and rightfully so, you trying trusting a country that has ****ed over generations of your people over and over again.

I am in no way shape or form condoning the sabotage, but I can certainly understand their frustration.
some people understand frustration for men who beat their wives. do you sympathize with them?

sabotaging trains should lead to terrorism charges.

i find no problem writing it off just as i write off the US having black slaves. The fact is black people sold other black people as slaves, and nobody in the states is still a 'slave' in that sense.

in north america you can always better yourself while having nothing. whether you succeed or amount to garbage is up to you and no one else.

we're in the land of opportunity.
Old 17-May-2007 | 10:53 AM
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Old 17-May-2007 | 11:21 AM
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You guys haven't seen natives unless you come to North Bay.. I go to school with a lot of natives in North Bay, not only do they don't have to pay for school, they get an monthly allowance.
annnnnnnnnnd ur point is?


The land you live on...the one u drive ur little pink civic on...it belongs to them.

I don't think they should resort to violence however we are after all occupying their land.....there should be some type of compromise.
Old 17-May-2007 | 11:23 AM
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annnnnnnnnnd ur point is?


The land you live on...the one u drive ur little pink civic on...it belongs to them.

I don't think they should resort to violence however we are after all occupying their land.....there should be some type of compromise.
ummm there is...

it's called free sh*t... and alot of it
Old 17-May-2007 | 11:27 AM
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LMFAO man this is a joke ... its like me sayin cause im black i should be compensated for what slaves had to go thru years and years ago ... i think after a certain point ancestrial things should be cut off .. say after the 3rd or 4th generation .. cause honestly .. these dudes want everything ... WTF they gonna do with the damn land .. they obviously we'rnt using it b4 they wanted to build houses ... man .. i think they are just auditioning for T.V. next thing you know they want thier own reality show ..

The Real World: Native Reserve Coming to MTV !
Old 17-May-2007 | 11:29 AM
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ummm there is...

it's called free sh*t... and alot of it
alot of free ****? maybe....but technically this all belongs to them and we are the ones that took it away...so we are to charge them for something they owned? lol

anyway this argument is really going nowhere as we will each have our own views on the topic
Old 17-May-2007 | 11:35 AM
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The only reason they are doing this is because they are funded very well. I think its something like 2 billion per annum that the government is spending on these people. This welfare is making them lazy because they don't see the point of working.

The only solution is to cut of ALL their funding. EVERYTHING. Let them work for their own money.

What these natives dont understand is that their ancestors had land, but no government subsidies. So life isn't as pretty as they think.
Old 17-May-2007 | 11:36 AM
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anyway this argument is really going nowhere as we will each have our own views on the topic
why is everything needing to be an "argument" its a lil debate .. i would sure hope ppl arent catching any e-feelings cause last time i checked no one on here is native lol

with that said ...


How can natives get all this free stuff (education,land,taxes ect)

and some of yall still think they deserve more ... do they even use the perks already given to them ?

PS. ive dealt with natives in the past on my 2 day drive up to Thunder Bay last year .. so yes im speakin from some experience ..
Old 17-May-2007 | 11:42 AM
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why is everything needing to be an "argument" its a lil debate .. i would sure hope ppl arent catching any e-feelings

naw man....


so what was ur experience like then? What is positive? negative?
Old 17-May-2007 | 11:43 AM
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alot of free ****? maybe....but technically this all belongs to them and we are the ones that took it away...so we are to charge them for something they owned? lol

anyway this argument is really going nowhere as we will each have our own views on the topic
yeah but welcome to the world... go back more than 200 years how do you think other countries were formed?? people just had nice discussions... maybe followed by a game of rock paper scissors... the winner got to keep the land and create the gov't???
Old 17-May-2007 | 11:46 AM
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The only reason they are doing this is because they are funded very well. I think its something like 2 billion per annum that the government is spending on these people. This welfare is making them lazy because they don't see the point of working.

The only solution is to cut of ALL their funding. EVERYTHING. Let them work for their own money.

What these natives dont understand is that their ancestors had land, but no government subsidies. So life isn't as pretty as they think.
*werd..

if we give them the land they want back we should then cut their funding... then what are they gonna do? they won't have money to even buy their glue and coke bottles... ( i know i'm generalizing but you get my drift ) they live nicely thanks to all the money we give them...


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