Natives do have a lot of advantages over other people. It's sad to see when things come to this.

Hey Bruce Fee, not to say there are no Newfies on welfare, every province has these people. I was born and raised in Newfoundland. I go back for a drop of Moonshine when ever I can. The majority of the people I know have moved and are living in other provinces for work. The few that do migrate back to Newfoundland work and go home to draw EI, not welfare. EI is not a scam. It’s provided by the government and is used by fisherman, farmers, construction workers, etc. Remember Newfoundland only has a population of 500,000, the city of Mississauga has more people.

A lot of people had no choice to leave and find work as the government of Canada has allowed foreigners to overfish and destroy our cod stocks. I’m one of them. I had no choice but to leave. What you see as Newfies scamming, is actually a lot of honest hard working people doing what they can to survive.

 

and with this post the sense of humour left the thread and the e-feelings come out to get hurt..

don't take **** so personally I was kidding

 

 

May I say something, even though this is between you two?

It's just that it's very easy to use sarcasm and/or insult...and then append it with, "oh, I was only kidding, you have lost your sense of humour"... I don't know. In the final analysis, a joke/teasing can be humourous...but, an insult can still be there, in the guise of 'just joking'. Guess thick skin is the order of the day, yes?

Thats just my 2 small cents.

Back to topic...?

 

^^ damn terry - I think i'm going to have to add your sig to mine...


Sha - I hear what you're saying - but i'm always sarcastic and very rarely EVER seriously 'mean' or 'insulting' ...

that's the prob with the 'net people take the words but don't use the context... unless it's a serious discussion (which 'arguing' over what kind of degree is better than another is not in my opinion) you can safely assume that I am not serious...

if you do then that's your own choice - that's not what i'm intending to convey...

 

That's cool, Alex. I just read what I read, and wanted to speak up, which I rarely do when it's someone else's 'entanglement'... but, like I said, no voice, only written sentiment to go by...and, as you indicate, you feel it's open to interpretation.

Only problem with that, and as an Admin I'm sure you're aware of it, is that people can insult/scorn/deride, etc...and then say they're not serious, only kidding. It's walking a fine line. I can certainly see what you're saying, however, and if Rajiv knows that you're just joking around, then I'm sure there's no harm done at all.

 

I'm gonna ban them both!

 

This is very true - but like you said it's all interpretation. Like I said before I'm almost always joking around (unless it's a serious talk), when in doubt don't take me seriously - if you do then that's your choice.

In my mind the whole exchange from when arts degrees were brought up was in good fun.... i didn't turn it serious anywhere in any of my posts, so if you want to take it out of context and treat it as a serious comment then by all means... but context is alot on a forum where all you have to read are words...

 

RAHHHHHH

 

lol - does the ban come with some 'discipline' from you brown sugah??

 

It's ok............we kissed and made up!

Alex could see that I was completely right and he was completely wrong, he admitted it, apologized profusely, and we're all sweeeeeet again! (...my version)
*fembot runs away quickly*

 

OWNED

 

haha I can picture this "discipline" in my head

 

honest and hardworking my ***.. why would they come back sit chill on EI? THey should just move if it's that much garbage.

EI is so to tide you over until you find a job, not to tide you over until next tax season to work and quit once you've made a set amount so that you can relax on EI again..

 

Why don't you tell me how a construction worker is going to work in winter? Why would someone not go back to their Home, where they grew up, where their families are? I personally know quite a few honest and hard working guys that work all the way in Alberta, just to support their families back in Nfld. I'd like to see you do something like that.

You don't think guys that work in construction here in Ontario don't draw EI in the winter? So if the Newfie goes home to draw EI he's in the wrong right? But it's OK for everyone else.

You do know that everyone pays into EI when they work, when getting your EI your technically are getting your money back from the government. As long as people are paying into EI, who the hell are you to tell them they can't take their money back? What do you think all the Farmers, Fisherman, Construction workers do across Canada in the winter time? You don't think they draw EI?

"They should just move if it's that much garbage."
Most of them have. If you had read my earlier post you would have see that.

You have no idea of what you are talking about.
First its Newfies are draining us Canadians with their welfare scams. Now it's no one should work just to quality for EI. Guess what, news flash for you Bruce Fee, if you quite your job you can't get EI. So tell me how someone can work just enough to get EI, then quite to get EI? It doesn't work that way, but your
claming Newfies do it. You need to get your facts straight. If its people using EI you got an issue with, you have got a issue will all the Farmers, Fisherman and Construction worker across Canada. Why are you talking crap about Newfies? If you got an issue with EI, take it up with the Canadian Government. Get your story straight.

 

Want to talk about government scams?

The somolian's in my area (largest somolian population in canada apprantly) run some big welfare scams..

I have friends that families do it.. so Ive seen it first hand.

There was a documentary on it, called.. A place Called Dixon.
Pulling in an extra 1400 a month must be nice..

BTW, when these people from out East go back home, is there no way they can find work? or do they prefer to sit at home and collect EI?

 

our government, taxation and everything else is based on systems.. its a one size fits all mentality with certain adjustments based on income, etc.

i have no problems with people working and then collecting EI. they paid for it. if you feel that you are a hard working person, and don't have it in your personality to work and collect EI alternatively, then awesome for you, you justified your being in your heart.. other people have different mentalities.. as long as the paperwork checks out, its their canadian given right to do so.

i prefer to work as much as i can, i feel useless when i am idle, and working makes me satisfied. i pay my outrageously high share of taxes, but thats the cost of living in this country.. i go to the doctor maybe once a year.. dont use any other social services, and neither does my family.. so technically i get a very very low percentage of my money paid back towards me in services.. but hey, i love livig here, and i dont mind paying for quality stuff. i know some people who are really hard down in life, and if my tax money can help them out.. then it warms me inside..

any system will have abusers, its a fact of life. some people make a living our of taking advantage of loopholes.. good for them, we have the freedom to do as we please. i have better things to do in life than criticize people and worry about their "immorality". Live right with yourself, and the world will treat you right.

 

If Toronto separated from Canada, we'd be a lot better off. A lot of this country is a drain on us.

The province of Newfoundland is just one example. No need to get so defensive.

 

Coming from a University graduate I am quite suprised at this comment. Education should have taught you to look around. We are on the verge of a crisis, a workforce shortage.

Companies will need to do things better to attract people to them, and in the future I think companies will institute training their own again. Employees perks will be phenominal.

Education should have prepared you for this, for it is those who are moving into positions of power who will need to know this is coming, and companies need to be ready now. Even going offshore for human resources will become costly.

I have no comment on the original topic other than this.

If the people from this site were to take over an area and stop business from flowing. We would be arrested. Where is the equality in all of this? The rest of it all is irrelevant, we have just proven that NOT "every man is equal under the law."

 

Actually your mistaken, last I checked Quebec gets 28% of Canada's revinue.