Nazi photos...in colour...freaky
05-Jun-2009, 04:48 PM
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05-Jun-2009, 08:38 PM
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i disagree.
There is once again separation between church and state.
Never forget, if the US did not give the foreign aid that it does, many countries would be starving or dead.
There are a great many nations that behave in a far more negative manner worldwide. and I mean today.
if people were expecting him to pull a rabbit out of his *** and fix the problems the us was facing, then they are idiots.
they're idiots.
I think so far, he's doing great.
There is once again separation between church and state.
Never forget, if the US did not give the foreign aid that it does, many countries would be starving or dead.
There are a great many nations that behave in a far more negative manner worldwide. and I mean today.
if people were expecting him to pull a rabbit out of his *** and fix the problems the us was facing, then they are idiots.
they're idiots.
I think so far, he's doing great.
Starving countries? Fu ck'm. It's terrible to say and think of, but because of foreign aid, it's only getting worse. If those countries didn't get the food/supplies WE provided, they wouldn't be in half the mess they are. I think of places like africa... 30 000 children die everyday from starvation. If there were 1/3 as many 'parents' there'd be only 1000's or less. The rule of LIFE is simple, where there's food, there's population. It's true in ALL makes of life, from bugs to badgers. WE provide food, they can sustain life, only to procreate. So the next year, there might be 40 000 people dying everyday.
Here's an example, Mexico gets a flu pandemic, the FED 'loans' Mexico $200 MILLION DOLLARS! does that sound like helping? Now the country is completely inslaved, like the states, to the FED.
Obama gave BILLIONS ... 100's of billions, of dollars to the banks, like the banks need money. I'll admit, some do, the little guys. But where did he get that money? Money is owned buy the FED, taxes payers or not, ALL THE GREEN BACK IS OWNED BY THE FED. Every dollar they make is technically not real, and not theres.
Back to the topic at hand...
It blows my mind how little people know about WW2 or any war for that matter. the pictures are neat, but the memories of my grandfather(still alive, in a home) and his stories are much clearer. The SS wallets he has, the skull and cross medals he took off a dead soldier. That is what's real. Even though I don't believe in war, I feel it's changing.
Hitler had a dream, to have one world. A terrible, and yet beautiful thought. The genocide carried out is just aweful. The dictatorship, terrible. But think of a world without religion killings/war, EQUAL oppertunity, actual love for humans. Then again, I hardly see a difference from the wars that are happening now, from what hitler tried to accomplish. I think this time, our army is bigger, and we're on the other side of the fence.
(NOT supporting racism, nazism, capitalism, religion, or any other kind of hate)
05-Jun-2009, 10:54 PM
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I forget what the bill is called but basically it will make abortion a fundamental right which would mean that Catholic hospitals and doctors would either have to go against their beliefs or close shop.
06-Jun-2009, 09:26 AM
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they can hire non-Catholics for that branch of the hospital.
06-Jun-2009, 02:21 PM
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i believe the **** party in germany ( current day ) actually got votes on sunday and a seat in government...a lot of anti muslim parties emerging in the EU and white only membership parties...
08-Jun-2009, 01:46 PM
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There can be no provision in any legislative bill in the US to force a religion to perform acts of any kind, since that would contradict the constitutional amendment for freedom of religion. It's typical hornswaggling from religious organizations who are expressing a worst POSSIBLE case scenario that legalizing something for all people will force them to take part. Basically stating that if a catholic church doesn't agree to marry two people, they will be sued and the courts will force them to. This goes against the constitutional amendment that allows freedom to practice religion, so a church cannot be sued into performing a service for someone.
This same logic is being applied in this case of abortion.
Also, it's an NY state bill from last year introduced by Spitzer, not a federal bill from "Nobama".
NY bill to declare abortion a “fundamental right” could threaten religious freedom
08-Jun-2009, 01:56 PM
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This is akin to the argument that legalizing gay marriage will force catholic churches to marry same-sex couples, which is utter poppycock.
There can be no provision in any legislative bill in the US to force a religion to perform acts of any kind, since that would contradict the constitutional amendment for freedom of religion. It's typical hornswaggling from religious organizations who are expressing a worst POSSIBLE case scenario that legalizing something for all people will force them to take part. Basically stating that if a catholic church doesn't agree to marry two people, they will be sued and the courts will force them to. This goes against the constitutional amendment that allows freedom to practice religion, so a church cannot be sued into performing a service for someone.
This same logic is being applied in this case of abortion.
Also, it's an NY state bill from last year introduced by Spitzer, not a federal bill from "Nobama".
NY bill to declare abortion a “fundamental right” could threaten religious freedom
There can be no provision in any legislative bill in the US to force a religion to perform acts of any kind, since that would contradict the constitutional amendment for freedom of religion. It's typical hornswaggling from religious organizations who are expressing a worst POSSIBLE case scenario that legalizing something for all people will force them to take part. Basically stating that if a catholic church doesn't agree to marry two people, they will be sued and the courts will force them to. This goes against the constitutional amendment that allows freedom to practice religion, so a church cannot be sued into performing a service for someone.
This same logic is being applied in this case of abortion.
Also, it's an NY state bill from last year introduced by Spitzer, not a federal bill from "Nobama".
NY bill to declare abortion a “fundamental right” could threaten religious freedom
It's not his bill but he said that the first thing he would do when he got elected was sign it.
08-Jun-2009, 01:58 PM
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08-Jun-2009, 02:01 PM
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the california couple arrested for holding a bible study in their own home...persecution of the church IS coming, you can count on it. i believe its in the fairness bill...not the right name but close.
08-Jun-2009, 03:42 PM
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Please provide references and context otherwise this post carries no credibility.
09-Jun-2009, 07:09 AM
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not arrested. forced to get a permit to hold a religious gathering in their house. 15 people at the house on tuesdays for a bible study...
YouTube - Permit Required for Bible Study?
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