imported_viper_2_4

thats garbage...political correct sayings are more offensive then anything...besides anybody who gets offended by you saying "merry christmas" to them should be punched in the face, its not like some said "your religion is crap"...

imported_Shazza

the exact frickin date doesnt matter in this case. it's the fact that he was born period that matters! friggin damn, u ppl make me so angry...it's like u completely missed my point.

grrrrrrrrrrr that "grrrrr" was especially for steve.

imported_viper_2_4

Lol, of course it matters, its like having Canada day in February...

Gallagher

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

imported_Shazza

when Christ was born matters for technical matters. but i'm celebrating the birth of Christ period...the fact that he was born. who's to say i have to celebrate it on the actual day of esp since no one knows the exact date? so, i'm supposed to celebrate christmas in march now? like wut they ghey...the whole point is to celebrate with friends and family. i.e. i'm celebrating his birth...not his birthday...there is a diff.

imported_Team Rukus

all i have to say is SilverSleeper you made some of the stupidest comments ever in this thread.
LOL

re-think about what you wrote.

imported_hdave

ok i didn't bother reading any of this stuff but this is what i think:

some judge ordered a christmas tree removed cuz some minorities had a problem with it.

if thats correct my response is:

f*ck those ethnic peices of sh*t, im indian (small dick ppl lol) so all u ethnics dont get offended haha
anyways... i dont see how it offends or hurts anyone in any way. its jsut a christmas tree, the majority of people in canada celebrate christmas so if you have a problem then get out. jeeezz.
i like multiculturalism and im all for it, but this kinda crap is just rediculous

if that isnt correct then can someone please coles note it for me?

imported_SilverSleeper

I don't care. That's your opinion and I have mine. You don't like it, go cry in a corner.

Multiculturalism is a waste of time. Trying to change the inherent of roots of this nation just leads to an ambiguous national identity which has many negative political and social implications. Hell it even affected my own education. That's my reason behind my comments.

In short, I expect that my own religious views are tolerated and respected. The dominant culture (Christians) should not have to sacrifice their own beliefs in order to satisfy a bunch of idealist whiners.

imported_Team Rukus

multiculuralism is a waste of time? what roots of this nation?

you might aswell live in the states and join the ***.

i dont care about what is going on in terms of the tree because I take no offence and I actually like the christmas tree and in no way does it make me want to join christianity.

but saying multiculturalism is a waste of time....WOW. Trudeau must be spinning in his grave.

Roots of this nation? no such thing. the people that invaded this land and claimed it their own and tried to assimilate the natives were all christians so because of that everyone that comes into this country should become christians or follow or abide by their rules or believes? if that was the case then christians wouldnt be your so called dominant culture if they did the same when they came here.

imported_hdave

i dont agree that multiculturalism is a waste of time. keep in mind rajiv your brown, if people didnt accept your people, your *** would still be in ____(wherever u came from).

i agree with multicluturalism and all that, but i just cant stand the fact that everyone get offended by everything these days.

(on a side note, when i was in a hick-town in the states i saw a *** building and there was two fatasses putting a shotgun in the trunk, that was kinda cool seeing that but i kept on driving and got the hell outta there lol)

imported_SilverSleeper

That's history and thats in the past. Every nation has its unsavory side. Every one. Doesn't matter if its peace-keeping Canada or Romania, they all have it. Whether its by a bloodless coup or an all out civil war, a dominant culture is ascertained in every country, usually by force.

When I joined university, the Charter and Multiculturalism were great things. Over time, when you've had to research and write tons of papers on political theory, the flaws with the Charter and with multi culturalism become evident. The entire Quebec "nation within a state" is a whole load of BS stemming from this. Alberta is getting all huffy because of their cultural distinctiveness from Ontario. In the short time of the charter, Canada has quickly turned into a very fractured country with all these little denominations claiming equal foothold on the soapbox. It takes away from progress and from the sovereignty of the land. Politician's agendas are geared towards appeasing these different factions rather than a determined foot forward. As backwards as it sounds, if there was a dominant unifying force (like religion or whatever) we wouldn't have these problems. And I would be for it as long as difference from the norm (i.e I can be a free practicing Hindu, where say dominant religion is say Buddhism) was accepted.

In principle I wish we could achieve what Trudeau wanted. It was a noble ambition. But perhaps a little too quick a change, too soon.

imported_Team Rukus

so whats the difference between today and a 100 years ago?
if you look at it from 100 years into the future its the same **** just a different pile.

szuberi

for a canadian to suggest that multiculturalism is a waste of time is least expected. what makes you believe that immigration of people into this country has led or will lead to an ambigious national identity? are you joking?

canada is respected all over the world for a key fact that so many people of different backgrounds co-exist together peacefully and when that happens...there is more than ample evidence to suggest that it helps in the economical, social and political development of the state. canada is perhaps the only country where you will find people from every other country in the world. the government laid down the charter of rights and freedoms back in the 70s to say to the world that we welcome all ethnicities and people and it will be our law not to be prejudice across race, religion and such differences.

Moreover, to suggest that the dominant christians should not have to sacrifice their own beliefs in order to satisfy a few is uber uber baseless because that is not this local event signifies. read up again on the conversation.

imported_xray

Since I started a different thread without searching forums, mind as well cut and paste :
BULLSH!T !!!

imported_gatherer

It's nice to see members of other religious organizations calling this act by this judge very stupid.

imported_SilverSleeper

Canada is not the only place where a diverse population co exists harmoniously. Britain, Australia, France and Germany are some examples. None of them are perfect but they do have a diversified population. Canada is not the only country to form a charter of rights and freedoms. Other former British colonies have this as well (New Zealand being an example). Moreover, the Charter was not the 70's but quite precisely 1982.

It's quite funny you should say the charter welcomes all ethnicities and peoples without prejudice. It may say that but I have a book from school that argues otherwise. A published book whose authors include none other than Supreme Court Judges. Furthermore, all Canadian citizens must understand this: our rights are NOT absolute. Section 1 of the Charter allows for the government to infringe on our rights for interest of the whole. This is how the Canadian government could defend the Anti-********* (awful) legislation it passed in 2001. Though everything may seem hunky-dory, the reality is much much darker.

imported_Team Rukus

I was born in germany and lived in france, switzerland and been to the u.k, denmark, norway, holland and by far canada is the most multicultural place. You dont see a heavy mix of people from all over the world in those countries at all.

imported_starboy869

Once you get out the big city areas in Canada the heavy mix of people almost comes to an end.

gatherer pointed out other religious organizations calling this act by this judge very stupid. Does anyone know if this judge in question was a female, and in late 30's or early 40's?

imported_Team Rukus

very true but the other countries mentioned dont even have that.
even look at new york city the mix of races there arent as diverse as ours.

imported_Bruce Fee

if you include decorations of all religions, then i want my religion logo up there as well. a pentogram.

why should satanists be left out?

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North American culture and society celebrates christmas.

jesus is the last thing on my mind when I think of christimas.

if a christmas tree offends you, perhaps you should leave the country as that is the majorities celebration.

you don't see people going to Mecca and demanding representation of Christmas there.

What about Vatican City, maybe they should advertise for other religions as well..