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06-Nov-2008, 06:24 PM
#81
Luka
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So a Catholic also should not be using condoms, or other safety/contraceptives.
the simple solution would be for the catholic doctor to not work in an abortion clinic.
if you base things on religions, jewish doctors can't work on saturday because it involves working, using technology and they don't want god to kill their family. Christian doctors can't work on sunday cause it's the day of rest.
why would a catholic even become a doctor, or go see a doctor?
just pray, ask for mercy, and gives thanks to the glory of santa clause and you'll be healed. those guys on TV can help too.
the simple solution would be for the catholic doctor to not work in an abortion clinic.
if you base things on religions, jewish doctors can't work on saturday because it involves working, using technology and they don't want god to kill their family. Christian doctors can't work on sunday cause it's the day of rest.
why would a catholic even become a doctor, or go see a doctor?
just pray, ask for mercy, and gives thanks to the glory of santa clause and you'll be healed. those guys on TV can help too.
you're right about the contraceptives, but then again, catholics shouldnt be having sex until they're married in the first place.
as for the doctor comment, uhh, ever think that having a doctor to heal you is God's way of answering your prayers? You seem to think that Catholics expect God to come down from heaven to answer everything they pray for.
06-Nov-2008, 06:52 PM
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what is there to elaborate on?
he supports the bill and said he would sign it. That's pretty cut and dry. You said things get twisted around meaning that the quote may have been taken out of context or worded incorrectly and i showed you a video with it coming straight from his mouth.
You can google the bill yourself if you want to learn all the details about it.
he supports the bill and said he would sign it. That's pretty cut and dry. You said things get twisted around meaning that the quote may have been taken out of context or worded incorrectly and i showed you a video with it coming straight from his mouth.
You can google the bill yourself if you want to learn all the details about it.
Do you think that maybe there can be amendments to the bill before signing it? Ever think of that? Or do you always believe what people spew out on youtube?
06-Nov-2008, 07:04 PM
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The fact that he plain out said that he supports the bill says enough to me.
Like I said GOOGLE it, you can even find the bill in wikipedia, its not just on youtube.
I originally said that I dont like some of the things he stands for. I'm against abortion altogether, so any amendmants wouldn't mean much anyway.
Like I said GOOGLE it, you can even find the bill in wikipedia, its not just on youtube.
I originally said that I dont like some of the things he stands for. I'm against abortion altogether, so any amendmants wouldn't mean much anyway.
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06-Nov-2008, 07:11 PM
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06-Nov-2008, 07:13 PM
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The fact that he plain out said that he supports the bill says enough to me.
Like I said GOOGLE it, you can even find the bill in wikipedia, its not just on youtube.
I originally said that I dont like some of the things he stands for. I'm against abortion altogether, so any amendmants wouldn't mean much anyway.
Like I said GOOGLE it, you can even find the bill in wikipedia, its not just on youtube.
I originally said that I dont like some of the things he stands for. I'm against abortion altogether, so any amendmants wouldn't mean much anyway.
Your facts are based on someone's opinion on what he plans to do when you cannot find one single shred of evidence of what exactly he has planned for that bill.
I am sorry, but too many people on this board like to cut and paste what they here from one source and get facts to discredit someone before they have even done anything.
We will see what he does, and I will reserve my judgement then.
You can post all you want Luka, but all you are doing is just posting your beliefs and I am happy for you that you stick to your faith.
06-Nov-2008, 07:45 PM
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That's fine, but you are ready to slam him for something he said without any explanation on how he plans to implement it or if he plans on following it exactly.
Your facts are based on someone's opinion on what he plans to do when you cannot find one single shred of evidence of what exactly he has planned for that bill.
I am sorry, but too many people on this board like to cut and paste what they here from one source and get facts to discredit someone before they have even done anything.
We will see what he does, and I will reserve my judgement then.
You can post all you want Luka, but all you are doing is just posting your beliefs and I am happy for you that you stick to your faith.
Your facts are based on someone's opinion on what he plans to do when you cannot find one single shred of evidence of what exactly he has planned for that bill.
I am sorry, but too many people on this board like to cut and paste what they here from one source and get facts to discredit someone before they have even done anything.
We will see what he does, and I will reserve my judgement then.
You can post all you want Luka, but all you are doing is just posting your beliefs and I am happy for you that you stick to your faith.
Its not based one anyones opinion. Everything posted comes straight from the bill itself, the bill he said he will sign. He's not the one proposing it, he's supporting it.
06-Nov-2008, 07:52 PM
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Continue on folks........
07-Nov-2008, 01:08 PM
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if a "catholic" doctor doesnt wanna perform an abortion .. so be it .. if they are soooooo catholic not to wanna do it .. i would find a new job ... at the end of the day .. this is someones choice that they are making .. i dont know when religion trumps someones personal choice .. but i guess thats religion lol ..
07-Nov-2008, 01:15 PM
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if someone can make the choice to have an abortion then a doctor should be able to make the choice NOT to perform them, no?
What is the purpose of proposing a bill that would force someone to go against their freedom of choice to follow their religion and choose not to perform abortions? Is having abortion clinics not good enough? They need to interfere with Catholic hospitals and basically tell them that they can't be Catholic anymore?
You are contradicting yourself when you say you don't know when religion trumps someones personal choice. If religion shouldn't trump someone's personal choice i.e. to have an abortion then it should work the other way around as well.
You obviously didn't read where I stated that Catholics believe those who perform abortions are just as guilty in sin as those requesting them.
You should also know that Catholics believe one of the greatest gifts from God is our own free will to make our own choices. However, this does not mean that you won't pay for those choices in the afterlife.
What is the purpose of proposing a bill that would force someone to go against their freedom of choice to follow their religion and choose not to perform abortions? Is having abortion clinics not good enough? They need to interfere with Catholic hospitals and basically tell them that they can't be Catholic anymore?
You are contradicting yourself when you say you don't know when religion trumps someones personal choice. If religion shouldn't trump someone's personal choice i.e. to have an abortion then it should work the other way around as well.
You obviously didn't read where I stated that Catholics believe those who perform abortions are just as guilty in sin as those requesting them.
You should also know that Catholics believe one of the greatest gifts from God is our own free will to make our own choices. However, this does not mean that you won't pay for those choices in the afterlife.
Last edited by shlammed; 07-Nov-2008 at 01:29 PM.
07-Nov-2008, 06:15 PM
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07-Nov-2008, 06:24 PM
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umm
this has nothing to do with anything getting more attention
i simply stated that i didnt like some of the things he stands for and you guys blew it up into what it became BECAUSE:
1) he's your new hero and you think he's perfect
2) it has to do with the Catholic religion.
this has nothing to do with anything getting more attention
i simply stated that i didnt like some of the things he stands for and you guys blew it up into what it became BECAUSE:
1) he's your new hero and you think he's perfect
2) it has to do with the Catholic religion.
Last edited by shlammed; 07-Nov-2008 at 06:26 PM.
07-Nov-2008, 08:00 PM
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umm
this has nothing to do with anything getting more attention
i simply stated that i didnt like some of the things he stands for and you guys blew it up into what it became BECAUSE:
1) he's your new hero and you think he's perfect
2) it has to do with the Catholic religion.
this has nothing to do with anything getting more attention
i simply stated that i didnt like some of the things he stands for and you guys blew it up into what it became BECAUSE:
1) he's your new hero and you think he's perfect
2) it has to do with the Catholic religion.
07-Nov-2008, 08:26 PM
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Its a simple fact, they exists, and are in control of most things, deal with it live with it and change things for the better.
ps: Bruce Fee JFK won in the last round with minority popularity votes, and surprised the "others" ever since then they "others" have created ways to prevent such things from happening again, and implemented strategies to benefit from such occurances.
Watch the movie "Battle in Seattle" you will see again how the elites were caught off guard at the WTO "WORLD trade Organization" there is also a WORLD bank etc.
If that is not a good part - proof of One world Government, then i suggest those people go outside for five minutes and beat their head with the lawn hose. Because its okay you won't get brain damage, its all conspiracy.
you won't see the damage..........till its done.
