thats great and all but i was actually talking about the sales not meeting apple's expectations according to some reports i read today

 

Ya, except your missing the point ENTIRELY...

he is buying it for at home with a network with less then 5 computers, not a business with 200 (and likely Exchange/mail servers, file servers, databases, etc)...

For at home, they are better...

 

Nice...definitly a nice piece of hardware there!! (although not a cheap one, lol)

 

That post was for Leitner not the original poster.

Give me one good reason I should use a MAC at home instead of a PC?

What's one thing I can do on a MAC that I can't do with XP?

Most Windows problems = user problems.

Most issues with Windows = issues with the drivers written by the companies who make the hardware, not Windows itself.

Why is it that a guy like me who actually knows something about computers can have a Windows XP machine running for weeks or months without issues? Without crashing? Without viruses?

You guys need to realize how stupid the average user is (i see it all the time).

They just click on anything, install anything, have like 10,00000 toolbar applications installed that are jam packed with spyware, etc.

Now you can argue that a lot of that stuff wouldn't be a problem on a MAC, but that still doesn't mean that Windows is the problem. It's not Windows fault that people are idiots.

 

shlammed, a person who feels my pain.

a supervisor was complaining about not getting any new emails. I went over, and clicked the up arrow on the scroll bar so that she could 'get' them.

once a month, i have to tell a user to uncheck 'work offline' in order to send/receive emails without clicking send/receive emails.

these same idiots will go and tell people their windows crashed and they couldn't get their work done.

that's just outlook.

add user logins with password rules and changing them every 28 days, add word, excel, our inventory/job tracking system, speakers, printers...... everyone's computer "crashes" because they're retarded.

when windows has a real problem, and i don't know how to fix it, i can go to google.com, when our macs have a real problem, i can go to google, but i will never find anything, because all people tell you to do is drag folders around and reboot.

 

User experience... If you play with one for an extended period of time (and I'm not talking 30 min) and have an open attitude (something most IT people I've met DO NOT have, not just with Apple products), you'll learn to appreciate the cohesion of the Mac platform...

It's a premium product, with an emphasis on user experience (from teh software, hardware design, support, sales, etc the whole cycle)...if you don't appreciate that, you'd be better with a PC...

 

really? I tend to find the solutions quicker for my Macs then for my PCs...seems the Apple user base is more vocal (despite being smaller)

 

i'm not talking about a video driver issue,.

i mean issues with software.

one varible text software i had trouble with... i ended up on the line with the head support guy in north america.. on his cell phone.. and the most the idiot could offer was "remove the software, reboot, install the software, reboot, it should work"

after that didn't work, my issue was sent off to a software engineer and they never got back to me. i installed an older build which worked.

 

huh strange...

Although, that doesn't sound much different then the Windows world, there are countless known issues (which I would argue are worse then unknown ones), which they just don't fix..

 

windows has the support for applications and compatibility issues because not only is the market larger, business' rely on it.

students come second to multi million dollar corporations.

 

Ya, exactly...it's targeted towards corporate support, I used to work for an IT company, obviously we got pretty solid support from MS. However, at home, nothing...

For the home user, Apple is better...

sounds like you should convince the Apple users at your office to switch to PCs, lol...

Keep the Mac at home

 

I do not prefer the "user experience" on a MAC at all, sorry.

 

we don't have MAC users. a client requires mac fonts, so the guys do the work on a PC, copy it to one of the shared macs, and sent jobs to the printers.

we have macs only for printing

 

sounds like a lot of hassle...

 

yup. especially cause i've never been able to get the automated backup to work with with the macs, and idiot clients send us data with characters that PCs can't use.

oh, and every time i update osx, i risk having to reinstall some of the database applications. it's like rebooting NT 4.0 servers back in the day, where you hoped a reboot would be successful.

 

huh, that's strange, I've had to hard reboot my mac like twice in 10 months...and never had an issue with updates...but the administrative functions on the Mac aren't as developed as they are on the Windows platform


Like I said, one is suited to home, one is for a corporate environment/infrastructure...

just out of curiosity, what version of OS X are you using?

 

10.3

i don't think mac is suited for anything over pc except giving my mom something to check her email on, even then, i'd rather get her using an embedded O/S

 

i think one is suited for dumbasses and the other is suited for competant computer users (no offense to any MAC users).

 

well, you are using a four year old OS (which doesn't have support any more)...

10.4 was a lot better then 10.3, in terms of reliability and usability...

Also, the old PowerPC machines can't touch the performance of hte Intel ones of today

 

see if you had a mac, you could use the built in thesaurus and figure out a more intelligent sounding word then 'dumbasses'...