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Old 24-Jan-2007, 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by szuberi
there is no limit when it comes to a business ripping off people....just like an average household does not drive a mercedes, the same avg. family does not need a $500 vaccum in my opinion because a $100 will do the same job. central vacs are nice since they come when you buy a house usually.

obviously, cars and vacs dont compare..haha

Oh give me a break, ripping poeple off? They make a product and charge the amount that the market will bear to maximize their profits. Guess what, Honda does this too, and so does every other company. Is Ferrari a rip off too? Because the owners sure don't think so.

What do you want them to do? Charge you less because it's rude to have a higher price?
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Old 24-Jan-2007, 11:20 AM
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^^ you are talking like a typical consumer...the one who has been made to think that anything expensive is better. while this can be true in alot of cases (u get what u pay for concept) a ferrari's price is justified cuz it is not for the average person out there...and the performance and pride it offers is unmatched on a large basis.

that is exactly my point here...why the average canadian consumer is not ahead of the game....cuz its all about luring average middle class family people into buying things that they dont need....like a $500 vaccum cleaner or a $1000 dvd player. its common wisdom that beyond a certain point...regardless of all technology, a product will not perform relative to its price.

alot of times we as consumers cant beat this system...but if you think....you can benefit....jsut my thoughts.
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Old 24-Jan-2007, 12:08 PM
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No, I don't think like that at all.

I realize that there is better "bang for the buck" if you want performance, like the Z06 beating Ferraris around the track and such, you can find a cheaper vacuum that will do as good of a job.

I don't think that more $ is better or anything.

The reason I replied to your comment is that you seem to think it's the ocmpanies fault... which it is not. THey make a product, spend money on research and whatnot to have great technology, make a beautiful design... so they can sell it for a higher price than the rest. Obviously, it is this marketing dept's job to try to advertise it, so damn right they're going to make people think you "need" it, just like all these ****ing ads for weight loss pills make poeple think they can just pop them and get skinny without getting their fat *** off the couch and runnning, which won't happen.

It's company A's job to do a great bang for the buck product, and sell it for a price. It's company's B job to mayb ehave even the same product, make it look nicer and market it better and sell it for a higher price. It doesn't mean company B is ripping people off...

It's up to the consumer to do their own research, and if everyone did that then poor people wouldn't end up with $500 vacuums that they have to pay off over a year when a $200 vacuum will do just as good. But those who can afford it would sitll buy the 500 one because it IS nicer..
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Old 24-Jan-2007, 07:06 PM
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DYSON UPRIGHT VACUUM CLEANER

The Dyson bagless vacuum is the top selling Bagless vacuum in the United States. England and Australia. Its far supieror to the Eureka, Bissel, Hoover and Kenmore bagless.

James Dyson the smooth talking brit who sounds like his false teeth have just fallen out explains who it works better than any other vacuum. James Dyson first came to minor fame when he invented the Ballbarrow, instead of a wheel that would sink in wet/muddy ground, he replaced it with a ball. Dyson started mass producing the Dyson vacuum in England 1993.

I Have tried all the New models, DC07, DC14 and DC15 also known as THE BALL. The DC08 canister. Plus the New Dyson DC17 ABSOLUTE, and the first Dyson hand held vacuum, This called the ROOT 6 and not in the stores until December 2006.

The good points.

1)The Dyson has some of the best attachments of any vacuum on the market today. The low reach models do get under beds and some furniture. The huge extension hose some 17ft long is great for cleaning carpet on the stairs.

2) No need to buy vacuum bags. It claims to never clog or block ever.

3) Claims to have a high filter rating, This is almost as good as some of the Hypo-Allergenic vacuums with bags. It comes with lifetime washable filters, However they do take approx 48 hours to dry once washed and after 3 years start to fall apart, The good news, replacemesnts are in expensive. Its probably best to buy a spare and dry it out properly. You can buy replacement Dyson Filters here on e-bay, from a variety of sellers, Only buy genuine Dyson to insure your warranty, Avoid the 'Honeywell' made to fit part.

4) The ball is great to use and maneuvers easily through a home.

5) Good suction, This machine really sucks!

The bad points.

1) The cost. They vary from model to model, Some models have to sell at $599. However any dealer found selling this model the Dyson Dc15 animal at a lower cost will be in violation of contract and will loose authorized dealership status. Typically a dealer will pay $402 or lower for this model. All models have a dealer price and retail advertised price. This practice keeps the price high. Even large chains like Sams club and Walmart can NOT advertise lower than Dyson Market Sales price, If they do they would have to pay a higher price themselves. This practice is illegal in Europe, and in James Dyson's home the United Kingdom.

2) The weight. You need arms like Mr Universe to carry a dyson. Some models with all attachments can weight up to 29 pound. And thats empty fill it with dust and add another 1-2 pound. Compare this to an Oreck at 8 pound, or even Eureka upright bagless at only 11 pound. This is why you need the long hose, not many people want to carry a large object that weight nearly 30 pound up and down stairs. But if you have rooms upstairs with carpets, you will need to carry it up and down. Take care. (Dyson's new hand held vacuum 'ROOT 6' , due out in store's December 2006, is a joke, Your wrist just cant take it, Its far too heavy for a hand held. You hold it like a gun, But you need 2 hands. I dont know what the Guys at Dyson where thinking.)

3) To empty the machine, you would probably need a dust mask. This is not just Dyson however, all bagless vacuum have this problem. What ever bagless you use, Bissell, Hoover,Eureka or Panasonic, always wash your hands after emptying out the vacuum. The vacuum waste is a mix of human hair and dead skin, pet hair, food crumbs, dirt, dead insects, bugs, bed bugs and the droppings and up to 6 types of bacteria. ..Hmm nice..... Wash your hands!

4) Plastic design. Its brittle. Most Dyson's, I get in to be repaired are due to cracks in the plastic body, Again the weight of the machine does not help, If dropped or knocked over it will crack. The warranty will NOT cover this.

5) They do clogg/block. I had to repair one. The customers have 2 large dogs and the Dyson animal could not handle all the hair, It clogged in the main inlet, causing the vacuum to overheat. (However ANY vacuum cleaner on the market would do the same)

If you are still interested in getting a Dyson, you really do want a bagless upright, with the best attachments on the market, Go for the Dyson Dc15 Animal, It has more power than the DC07 or DC14. The Dc17 absolute is an Absolute waste of money and is just hype. Its $150 more and you get nothing more, The marketing dept at Dyson are laughung at you. This machine is so large and heavy unless you have no furniture, stairs, or door ways to steer around, its pretty patheitc.

I have given good points and bad for the Dyson above, This is just my opinion, as an owner of a large cleaning company and retailer of Vacuum cleaners, including Dyson, Hoover, Oreck, Eureka and Panasonic. I hope this helps even if its a little. Have a nice day.
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