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Old 10-Mar-2008, 04:26 PM
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Reference check please - Those who are knowledgable in Islam

Sahih Muslim; Chapter 35 Book 26, Number 5562

Does Mohammad decree that geckos should be killed? and if so, why?
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Old 10-Mar-2008, 04:52 PM
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because they are "noxious" or harmful due to the fact that when people/other animals pick them up or bother them they defecate on the aggressor and/or expel a foul scented excrement...
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Found on wikipedia..I'm not muslim but I dunno if this helps you out?

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In Muslim culture some animals such as hyenas, bats, geckos, snakes, and other reptiles as well as insects are considered to be ugly, dangerous, vicious, and powerful. Sometimes, the stances on them are ambivalent.[18] In Hadith literature, it is reported from Muhammad that he issued advice to kill the sinful (fawasiq) animal even within the holy area (haram) of Mecca.[19] It is reported that Muhammad commanded geckos to be killed and called them 'little noxious creatures'.[20]"

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i know that Pig is haram in islam, i didn't know this but my english professor, said that its also not allowed to christians, the reason behind this is this, that pig is a dirty animal, and it dosen't get effected by feaces or any diseases, so the animal does not die, and when the human hunts and eats that diseased pig, he will die and get disease by eating that pig, other animals die when they get a disease, so the human dosen't eat that animal, because its already dead and shows the effects of a sick animal.

its all about safety, and protecting your well being.
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Old 10-Mar-2008, 07:25 PM
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Mmmmm...Pork
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^^^, yuk,

i don't understand how you could like the sweetness of it, i guess i have salty taste buds.
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mmmmm, bacon *drool*

Christians eat pork all the time. maybe you're thinking of the Jews.
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since when are ribs and bacon sweet? i dont like pork roast tho...yuk...ribs and bacon...fack yea!!!!!!!!
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yeah, if anything i'd say salty. well, prociutto is super salty...i don't like it...but i suppose it's only salty b/c they actually salt it.

mmmmm, bacon and sausages.
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pigs are actually very clean animals. Left to themselves they will not **** all over the place.

They roll in mud to cool themselves off, we might be doing the same if we didn't have access to air conditioning or even shade, not to mention our sweat glands.

Pork will go bad very quickly if not refrigerated, or not cooked properly (not all parts of it) in comparison to beef.

this is why cavemen believing in messiah's decided it was not good to eat it.

people are too stupid to realize otherwise.

or their virtuous beliefs uphold some great principles that can't be explained because you're not to question anything from the lord (the sign of a good master)

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I'm seriously curious if and if so, why the Prophet Mohammad decided that we should be killing geckos, and not iguanas.

I just got a pet gecko off someone who has too many and it's fairly docile and harm free.

I think it's cool I'm blaspheming without even knowing if that is the case.

Eating reptiles by the way, has the same issue with pork, especially when you don't have a bbq or a fridge.
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Go Banana
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Old 11-Mar-2008, 02:13 AM
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bruce I told you why...its cuz certain ones sh*t on the aggressor (human/other animal) and it stinks real bad bro...hence mohammad saying they are noxious and should be killed instead of logic and leaving them alone
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Jesus said to paul on the roof top..."nothing God had made is unclean" when He offered paul an animal with a cloved feet to eat... ie: pig and paul refused because he said it was unclean.

then Jesus said "its not what goes in to your mouth that makes you unclean but what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean" so paul ate the animals.

wow...not what goes in but what comes OUT!

mmmmmmm puppy.
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Originally Posted by Shazza
mmmmm, bacon *drool*

Christians eat pork all the time. maybe you're thinking of the Jews.
it depends on the kind of christian.... Seventh Day Adventist Christians dont eat pork
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Originally Posted by spyda5588
it depends on the kind of christian.... Seventh Day Adventist Christians dont eat pork
is that cause they know better than jesus did?

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so i guess no one cares to respond about Mohammad's views on geckos.

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Originally Posted by bruce fee
is that cause they know better than jesus did?

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so i guess no one cares to respond about Mohammad's views on geckos.
I don't think you can find your answer on TCC regarding the gecko issue

why don't you ask a religious figure?
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I'm not going to drive to a mosque to find out such a simple question.
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i answered the damn question already man...geckos stink (certain varieties) if you **** them off so they should die...that really is the answer
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i want to hear it from someone who follows the koran if that's the reason why we should kill things.

should we be killing skunks as well? or is it only things in the middle east that buddy ralph ran into that gave him the heebie jeebies
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or is it only things in the middle east that buddy ralph ran into that gave him the heebie jeebies

that about sums it up
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