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Rust or Stone Chips?
26-Aug-2003, 05:39 PM
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Rust or Stone Chips?
ok I was on the DVP on the way to work ... and thought about a topic that has been going through my head for the past few days after getting back from alberta.
in toronto we place salt on the roads which rusts out our cars like crazy...
in calgary they use gravel which results in less rust (next to none on most cars I saw) but stone chips are a fact of life out there.
so the question is stone chips and gravel or
rust and salt
which would you prefer to have on the roads?
in toronto we place salt on the roads which rusts out our cars like crazy...
in calgary they use gravel which results in less rust (next to none on most cars I saw) but stone chips are a fact of life out there.
so the question is stone chips and gravel or
rust and salt
which would you prefer to have on the roads?
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26-Aug-2003, 06:22 PM
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bdotdan you have a point ... however the beaters even last longer without rust killing them.,.... anyways there is no neither because well something has to be used in winter.... and there's not a no opinion one because everyone here has an opinion....
also I ask this question because some of us can't afford a beater and since the debate between the 2 has been raging in my head since alberta I've been curious to see what others think...
also I ask this question because some of us can't afford a beater and since the debate between the 2 has been raging in my head since alberta I've been curious to see what others think...
26-Aug-2003, 06:51 PM
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hey, if i can afford a beater than almost anyone can. before my friend moved away my friends and i would just buy a pos that someone traded where his dad worked. i would help you guys out if you were interested but they moved to the US.
the chevy celebrity we had was the best, even made it daytona and back with no problems
yeah you say neither cause we need something for the roads in the winter
the chevy celebrity we had was the best, even made it daytona and back with no problems
yeah you say neither cause we need something for the roads in the winter
26-Aug-2003, 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by gatherer
bdotdan you have a point ... however the beaters even last longer without rust killing them.,.... anyways there is no neither because well something has to be used in winter.... and there's not a no opinion one because everyone here has an opinion....
also I ask this question because some of us can't afford a beater and since the debate between the 2 has been raging in my head since alberta I've been curious to see what others think...
bdotdan you have a point ... however the beaters even last longer without rust killing them.,.... anyways there is no neither because well something has to be used in winter.... and there's not a no opinion one because everyone here has an opinion....
also I ask this question because some of us can't afford a beater and since the debate between the 2 has been raging in my head since alberta I've been curious to see what others think...
if everyone on the road didn't suck at driving then they wouldn't need salt... or sand for that matter... just as long as the roads are plowed and my front bumper isn't gonna drag on anything i'll be fine.... with a nice set of snow tires....
its just the fact there are so so many people who have licences and drive everyday yet to not understand how to control there car... its like they are all zombies or something.... zombies to there own cars.... its pretty sad... on the highway once i saw some woman driving her minivan reading a book... yes thats right reading a book.... i assume she just looks up every 10 secs or so....
people like that shouldn't even be allowed on the roads
26-Aug-2003, 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by gatherer
well driving skill isn't the issue ... on my street for example it gets plowed about once a winter ... the rest of the time it's just salted ... it's better then nothing ....
well driving skill isn't the issue ... on my street for example it gets plowed about once a winter ... the rest of the time it's just salted ... it's better then nothing ....
that is true... but if the government isn't wasting all that money on salt they could afford to keep the roads plowed... cause in the end plowing is cheaper for them....
depends where you live to i guess... my street usually gets plowed the day of a snow dumping and by the time that happens everything else is also plowed....
26-Aug-2003, 07:53 PM
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I voted for salt. I don't care how well you drive or how well you think you can handle your car, we get a lot of freezing rain and ice during winter around here and gravel isn't going to do anything for traction during those conditions. When you hit black ice that hasn't been applied with salt, there's next to nothing that you can do to stop your car once it's out of control... doesn't matter how good a driver you are.
26-Aug-2003, 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Buff 'n Stuff
I voted for salt. I don't care how well you drive or how well you think you can handle your car, we get a lot of freezing rain and ice during winter around here and gravel isn't going to do anything for traction during those conditions. When you hit black ice that hasn't been applied with salt, there's next to nothing that you can do to stop your car once it's out of control... doesn't matter how good a driver you are.
I voted for salt. I don't care how well you drive or how well you think you can handle your car, we get a lot of freezing rain and ice during winter around here and gravel isn't going to do anything for traction during those conditions. When you hit black ice that hasn't been applied with salt, there's next to nothing that you can do to stop your car once it's out of control... doesn't matter how good a driver you are.
very well put.
26-Aug-2003, 08:38 PM
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its at least partially due to lack of skill... or maybe the fact everybody is always in such a hurry when driving... cause the rest of canada and the world for that matter dont need salt to drive in the snow.... there are a lot of smaller propblems that cause this though... like everyone being in a hurry, work being dicks about time off cause of weather, etc... i went through last winter with near bald tires and got stuck once... and it wasn't even really my fault cause the person in front came to a complete stop where one wasn't needed and because of that we had 3 cars stuck...
as for black ice... if you have snow tires i find that you can manuvure (sp) on it... just dont speed or ham on the brakes... you just gotta be smooth... very smooth... like mellow yellow
as for black ice... if you have snow tires i find that you can manuvure (sp) on it... just dont speed or ham on the brakes... you just gotta be smooth... very smooth... like mellow yellow
hahahaha ya right
26-Aug-2003, 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by Buff 'n Stuff
I voted for salt. I don't care how well you drive or how well you think you can handle your car, we get a lot of freezing rain and ice during winter around here and gravel isn't going to do anything for traction during those conditions. When you hit black ice that hasn't been applied with salt, there's next to nothing that you can do to stop your car once it's out of control... doesn't matter how good a driver you are.
I voted for salt. I don't care how well you drive or how well you think you can handle your car, we get a lot of freezing rain and ice during winter around here and gravel isn't going to do anything for traction during those conditions. When you hit black ice that hasn't been applied with salt, there's next to nothing that you can do to stop your car once it's out of control... doesn't matter how good a driver you are.
26-Aug-2003, 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by gatherer
good point ...but 99% of the population hasn't taken a skid control school I think a skid control school as manditory driver training would fix that ...
good point ...but 99% of the population hasn't taken a skid control school I think a skid control school as manditory driver training would fix that ...
or even if the driver's ed courses they have now were a little more indepth... i mean i basically spend $400... and i answered all my own tests for it... for my in car stuff i only actually did 6 hours.... and for each or my hour lessons we drove to a local timmys and my instructor bought me a dounut and drink...
like i didn't care at the time cause it was easy as a hooker, but looking back i honestly didn't learn a thing from it.... just got a piece of paper saying i get cheaper insurance....
