Synthetic oil costing me too much...
#22
Originally posted by BoOsTd
do you offer a training course?
do you offer a training course?
on second though, those running synetheic in their cars, do you run it longer, or still change it the standard limits as Dino oil?
#25
I never ran synthetic oil because it is a waste of $$$. If u have a new engine and it has just break in then maybe that's a diff story. Most of us don't have brand new civics in here. If u can't afford Synthetic then put regular oil, if u can afford it then don't complain. Samething with ppl driving SUV and complaining about gas. Most Honda burns a little bit of oil so maybe every month u might need to top up the fluid sometimes. U can actually switch them back and make no harm actually. Make sure u don't mix synthetic oil and regular oil together when topping up the fluid. I heard it is bad for the engine. Don't ask me why but that's what my engine teacher asked me. So yeah. Just a advice for all u people.
#26
I found a cheap place to buy Mobil 1 synthetic oil for cheap. Too bad it's not in this country.
My wife and I did a little shopping over in Port Huron, MI, USA on the weekend. We were in WALMART and of course I made it to the automotive dept. and I decided to check out the price of Mobil 1 oil. $20US = $24ish Cdn for a 4.7L jug. WTF!! CHEAP!! Too bad they were sold out of the 5w30 regular full synthetic. I ended up picking up a single 4.7L jug of Mobil 1 Extend Performance for $25US = $30Cdn. I don't know too much about the extended performance other than 15,000 miles guaranteed. (umm sure ok?)
I'm going to be heading back to states in few weeks to hopefully get a few jugs of regular Mobil 1 full synthetic.
My wife and I did a little shopping over in Port Huron, MI, USA on the weekend. We were in WALMART and of course I made it to the automotive dept. and I decided to check out the price of Mobil 1 oil. $20US = $24ish Cdn for a 4.7L jug. WTF!! CHEAP!! Too bad they were sold out of the 5w30 regular full synthetic. I ended up picking up a single 4.7L jug of Mobil 1 Extend Performance for $25US = $30Cdn. I don't know too much about the extended performance other than 15,000 miles guaranteed. (umm sure ok?)
I'm going to be heading back to states in few weeks to hopefully get a few jugs of regular Mobil 1 full synthetic.
#29
DO SYNTHETIC OILS WORK?
Seeing the ads for synthetic motor oils and lubricants, you may ask if they are right for your gasoline or diesel engines. Are they worth the extra money?
Conventional mineral motor oils are refined using crude oil for the base sotck. Mineral oils contain impurities, such as nitrogen,resin,asphalt,wax, carbon, sulfur, and aromatic residues. Refining removes most of these, but some remain to cause problems, especially under stress and temperatures.
In contrast, synthetic oils are developed in the laboratory- from man made orgainc esters and other synthesized hydrocarbons to provide the exact characteristics desired. These "designer" oils include no impurities, at least when poured from the can. Impurities, of course, can appear during combustion.
Even the best mineral-based motor oils break down or oxidize at temperatures of 250deg to 350deg F. Above this the life of these oils drops drastically, resulting in increased engine wear and formation of harmful sludge (or BLACK DEATH) , varnish and other deposits. Synthetic oils can easily tolerate temperatures of up to 450deg, and some can go up to 550+deg. with synthetic oils, there are no impurities, so they resist oxidation much longer.
Synthetic oils also work better at low temperatures because they flow much more freely down to -40 to -50 degrees F. Also, synthetic oils start lubricating much sooner and reach critical areas much faster.
The advantages? Longer intervals between oil changes are possible because synthetics suffer less breakdown due to the better base stock used. Usually the synthetics will have a better additive package, allowing the oil to clean better among other things.
Word of caution!, Not everyone needs to use a full synthetic oil. There is many times a good mineral based or synthblend will do just as well. Changing to a full synthetic on an older vehicle (for example) can cause leaks in the seals, the detergents can break loose accumulated sludge deposits which in turn could clog oil passages and cause other havoc inside the engine.
It's best to consult a lubricant specialist / mechanic to determine what your options are.
Seeing the ads for synthetic motor oils and lubricants, you may ask if they are right for your gasoline or diesel engines. Are they worth the extra money?
Conventional mineral motor oils are refined using crude oil for the base sotck. Mineral oils contain impurities, such as nitrogen,resin,asphalt,wax, carbon, sulfur, and aromatic residues. Refining removes most of these, but some remain to cause problems, especially under stress and temperatures.
In contrast, synthetic oils are developed in the laboratory- from man made orgainc esters and other synthesized hydrocarbons to provide the exact characteristics desired. These "designer" oils include no impurities, at least when poured from the can. Impurities, of course, can appear during combustion.
Even the best mineral-based motor oils break down or oxidize at temperatures of 250deg to 350deg F. Above this the life of these oils drops drastically, resulting in increased engine wear and formation of harmful sludge (or BLACK DEATH) , varnish and other deposits. Synthetic oils can easily tolerate temperatures of up to 450deg, and some can go up to 550+deg. with synthetic oils, there are no impurities, so they resist oxidation much longer.
Synthetic oils also work better at low temperatures because they flow much more freely down to -40 to -50 degrees F. Also, synthetic oils start lubricating much sooner and reach critical areas much faster.
The advantages? Longer intervals between oil changes are possible because synthetics suffer less breakdown due to the better base stock used. Usually the synthetics will have a better additive package, allowing the oil to clean better among other things.
Word of caution!, Not everyone needs to use a full synthetic oil. There is many times a good mineral based or synthblend will do just as well. Changing to a full synthetic on an older vehicle (for example) can cause leaks in the seals, the detergents can break loose accumulated sludge deposits which in turn could clog oil passages and cause other havoc inside the engine.
It's best to consult a lubricant specialist / mechanic to determine what your options are.
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