dingus88

dsm sweet power bullet proof lot's of performance parts...lsd rear dif.. and cheap and if yoru motor blows get a 1000 dollar jdm setup...cant' go wrong

imported_gatherer

I always thought those had a ton of engine issues....... (basically that is my one fear) ok so besides Crankwalk .... what other issues do they have? suspension issues would be the biggest issues I'll want to look at....

bbarbulo

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DSMs can't be lowered or else they become nearly undrivable. Those who say otherwise don't know ****. That's the main concern with susp - lack of wheel travel. As for engine issues, it's like every old car - hoses, belts, mounts, etc ... plus the crank walk. But I think the sales numbers (volume of these cars still in service) and availability of used AND new parts for DSM cars far outweighs any drawbacks the car has. I mean, you'll be racing w/ this car, so whatever you choose is going to BREAK PARTS no matter what. I'd rather choose a car where I can walk into a Chrysler dealer and say "motherfuka, I need 5 shifter cables" and he says "that's $50.43 sir!" I mean... as long as you can find parts readily available, that is better than calling the UK going "will you ship a new transfer case for the 1990 Golf Rallye G60" and he says "sure mate, that's $20,298.83"

imported_gatherer

you have a good point Bruno... but lack of suspension travel might be a serious down side for a rally car ..... ohhh well I'll have to do some googling and then get back to this thread later....

bbarbulo

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yeah, but they are used very successfully by many privateers... so there IS parts and technology to overcome the lack of wheel travel. Just don't lower it and go to a custom rate/length spring with inverted Ohlins shocks haha... check into race runner or carrera shocks too... anything with an external oil reservoir really!

imported_mrchaos

funny....lol

McD

I would seriously consider the Talon TSi AWD, Those things ran **** in rally back in the day until the WRX started taking over. There cheap to buy, make fast, they handle awesome in snow and rain, parts are easy to come buy, I mean there really the best bang for the buck, even with the stock suspension setup they handle awesome, plus if you buy a 90-early 92 with the 6 bolt engine you basically have to have no worries of it crankwalking, it mainly only happens in the 7 bolt engines. I bought my old talon which was in awesome shape except for the blown motor for $700, and then just rebuilt the engine, but everything else opn the car was mint, it would definatly be a good platform to start with.

And if you do consider the Talon route whenever you start this project let me know, I know of a good source for Talons and I currently have one just sitting that I will probably have for a while.

imported_gatherer

when you say 6 bolt and 7 bolt engines what part of the engine exactly are you refering too?

dingus88

it refers to the botls on the flywheel I believe...jsut get oen before 92 and you will be fine...or if it blowws then jsut get a 1000 dollar jdm engine and x fer case

and they are fine lowered your on crack...and in rally you will have custom coils that wont' lower anyway..the prokit's are the best chioce with agx's...you might think they handle liek crap cause if you lower them on stock shocks or gr2's they are very unstable because of the weight...they need agx's at the minimum and msot go for the pro kit's anyway

they have the msot bullet proof motor you will find and the msot aftermarket you will find

with the stock turbo you can pull 300 hp (14b)

they are actaully real bullet proof cars jsut over abused most the time.

you will want a dog box or tre tranny if your beatign the snot out of it on the regular and are pulling 300-400 hp awd launches... check out www.dsmtalk.com and read up on them. I have been reading up on them for a good year or 2 now and know my fare share...and hope to own one very soon

imported_gatherer

thanks for your help dingus88

imported_soso

Awww, watever diss the g60 rallye all you want, I still love it, hahaha. Ya I guess for a tight budget a german isn't the best choice, plus it's an old german car so a alotta more problems come along with that. I still wouldn't mind owning one though. Good luck to watever choice you make man.

McD

Very true to what Dingus said, I personaly know a friend who ran a 13.1 on the 14b, and dyno'd 297 to the wheels, just get some stiffer spings and a nice adjustable shock and your set. Yeah the 6 and 7 bolt refers to the bolt's on the flywheel, and yes Talons are usually overabused because it's so easy to just turn oup the boost.

imported_gatherer

thanks everyone .... going to do the rest of the research myself ... this now starts 1 year of figuring it all out

bbarbulo

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just look at the class you're running/wanna run in - and look at the top 5 cars for the last 5 years at every race. The car that is consistently in the top 5 for the last 5 years is the car you wanna show up with.