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Old 21-Nov-2003, 11:25 AM
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Topic: Remote copying

I heard that in the past 18 months a company in the UK has advertised that for an
agreed sum of money, they can park a van outside the house of your
choice and copy all of the files on the hard disc of any computer
inside that house. Computers inside the house need not be switched on
and the company does not need access to the computer in any way.
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 11:29 AM
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umm yeh ok, with what, telepathic powers??

if there not on wireless or internet at all how?
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 11:36 AM
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dude man .... stop takening those pills
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by gatherer
dude man .... stop takening those pills
yeh, step away from the computer and get a woft of fresha air
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There has to be some sort of connection to transfer these files that are going to be copied...
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 12:08 PM
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Wardriving

If someone has a wake-on-LAN (WOL) card, I assume a wardriver could wake your computer (or they could wait for someone to turn it on) and access it via SMB shares. By default, Windows NT 4.0, 2000, and XP share the root of each partition as driver letter + $ (C$, D$, etc), so they could get access to your entire hard drive through those shares if they can crack your Administrator password (which is often blank or trivial in homes).
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 12:14 PM
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I know someone that worked in designing secure compartmentalized information facilities (SCIF's)

I read the article. Nor only does the computer have to be on, but you have to have a wireless network that has unprotected or easily defeated log in. Usually a simple password is adequate.
I can tell you that under some circumstances and with some computers, data can be read from a standard computer.

But this is much more difficult and it does also require the computer being read to be on.
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by EKdude
Wardriving

If someone has a wake-on-LAN (WOL) card, I assume a wardriver could wake your computer (or they could wait for someone to turn it on) and access it via SMB shares. By default, Windows NT 4.0, 2000, and XP share the root of each partition as driver letter + $ (C$, D$, etc), so they could get access to your entire hard drive through those shares if they can crack your Administrator password (which is often blank or trivial in homes).
all network cards have that feature these days ... but (and this is a big one) I have NEVER seen someone connect the required cord.... seriously why would they it's used to allow servers to sleep during non peak hours.... reducing power load....

and for the WOL feature to work for this company in a van to steal your stuff .. first that wire has to be hooked up and second you need a wireless router that is unsecure... most wireless routers will allow you to specify which MAC addresses to give service too.... so if set up correctly you only offer service to the computers in your house.
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 03:22 PM
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Thats how I have my wireless netowork setup, mac address filtering. Plus all I have shared on my network are MP3s and videos
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Who wants me to sit in their driveway and spoof their allowed mac address?

Takes about 30 seconds..

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Old 21-Nov-2003, 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by 94EG6HB


Who wants me to sit in their driveway and spoof their allowed mac address?

Takes about 30 seconds..

sure ... I'll bet 100 bucks you can't do it
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 04:18 PM
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Hehe, I heard some thing on the radio today; about another form of internet theft. Its wireless internet theft. They sad they caught some guy naked in his car going the opposite direction on a one way street downloading some p*rn. Anyways, if your running wirless try your best to secure it !!
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by gatherer


sure ... I'll bet 100 bucks you can't do it


[window]arstechnica.com/paedia/w/wireless/security-1.html[/window]

[window]airscanner.com/downloads/sniffer/sniffer.html[/window]

Your WLAN or mine?
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Old 21-Nov-2003, 04:51 PM
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hehhehe like I said 100 bucks says you can't get the MAC addresses for my network from your car ... outside my house.....













































I don't have a wireless router or wireless anything
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Want some dipping sauce for your foot?

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Old 21-Nov-2003, 04:58 PM
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I could crack a window plu g into your lan and then use my laptop with a long CAT5 cable.



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Originally posted by 94EG6HB
I could crack a window plu g into your lan and then use my laptop with a long CAT5 cable.



in 30 seconds????

Originally posted by 94EG6HB


Who wants me to sit in their driveway and spoof their allowed mac address?

Takes about 30 seconds..

also remember you just said sit in my driveway and spoof my mac address.... you didn't mention that you needed me to have a WLAN or an access point for you

and yes I would like some dipping sauce...
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Old 22-Nov-2003, 12:49 AM
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17 wifi hits..

8 open networks...

Summertime wardriving..

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Hmmm.....Wardriving.............sounds familiar.
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