imported_Bruce Fee

the dead guy was DRUNK and driving... twice the limit... isn't that automatic license suspension... these guys were doing maybe 30 over..?

they shouldn't serve any jail time... i'm sure they feel remorse.. and charging tax payers to keep them locked up while forcing them to put their lives on hold doesn't do much..

Cynikal.Mindset

they were racing up yonge at 150kmh thats well over 30km over the limit

imported_ERTW

so what? those 2 were street racing and caused a death, the fact he was drunk doesnt negate any of that

imported_Bruce Fee

1. he could have been driving unsafely. the accident could have been caused by the drunk guy but blamed on the young guys who were improving their driving abilities.

2. eye witnesses can't estimate 150, that's why police have radar.

my friend almost caught a fish thiiiiis big the other day

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i won't even go as far as racing, but excessive speeding in traffic and weaving through traffic are both stupid things that tend to generally be committed by young adult males.. this isn't something new.. nor is it something that can be stopped by punishing people more than they need to be.

Education before it happens and a proper outlet for that desire and thrill in a safer more controlled environment is the way to go. Not ruining two additional lives.

Take their license away for 5 years, make them learn about the public transportation system.

kwikb16a2

He made an improper left which automatically deems him at fault....maybe if he was sober he would notice that the two were travelling at a higher speed than normal.

imported_nnniiiccckkk007

do they know if it was a foggy day? sometimes the fog causes people to drive faster.

pain2bare

Two wrongs don't make a left.

Nova_Dust

Only if he was making a right turn, eh?

sol2nv

finally someone sees the wrong, of course these 2 guys driving the hondas were being stupid as in driving fast but they were not street racing and i know that for a fact, they were jus doin what 2 buddies do when they cruise they speed playing around with their buddy, im not saying they are in the right for speeding but hey if that guy didnt drink as much then he would have had the judgement of how fast/far the cars were im not saying no one was in the right but you look at these guys like their the worst people on earth but really there is more to the story then it seems.

and like kwikb16as says isnt the person who is makin the turn is at fault? dont go if its not safe well if that guy didnt drink then he would have seen it was not safe.

imported_bananax

don't mean to sound like a *****, but you're being ignorant, the 2 idiots that were street racing are idiots, but the father is just as much of an idiot for driving drunk, he could have just as easily killed someone else or some other girls parents because he is driving drunk,

yes they were street racing, but whos to say that he didn't cause the accident by making an unsafe left turn because his judgment was impaired ? would you sentance him too if he lived and his wife died?

civicnation

Wow you street racing ricers are pulling on loose threads. They were street racing, they should be charged.

imported_ERTW

yeah.. i'm being ignorant..

the only fact you are forgetting is he is already dead and unable to defend his "unsafe left turn" in court.

the 2 street racing idiots are alive and were able to defend themselves in court and were unsuccessful.

imported_ERTW

you don't know anything for a fact. and if you do, were you a witness in court to prove their innocence?

2 buddies speeding and fooling around on a public road is called street racing, exhibitionism, whatever, my dear.. and it is illegal

public roads are infrastructure designed for transport, from point A to point B.. not to fool around and kill other people while 2 buddies are just having fun...

imported_cueburn

I thought it was .08?

imported_J_MAC

so what would you say if this drunk driver and his wife survived but the kid doing 20 over was killed in the exact same accident?

imported_ERTW

if a drunk driver killed a kid, i would say throw him in jail

but we can play the "if" game until end of time.

the court proven fact right now is that 2 street racers killed another driver

imported_Kingjames1983

lets not forget how the information of him being drunk was release way after the incident. At first they were doing at least 50 over and now they were only doing 20 over. Sure they might have been driving like douche bags but 20 over definitely isn;t racing. I think 20 over is common on younge street as I take it every day to go to work and thats during rush hour.
I think they should get in **** for driving like morons but nothing near as bad as what he should have recieved. If he was still alive I wonder if they would be after him for being drunk or still after the 2 guys for apparent street racing?
Besides the point what 8 year old has that strong of stance on street racing? Its obvious she is being spoon fed on what she should say ... hell even them not telling the girl her dad was drunk is evidence of them picking and choosing what to tell her.
Its funny how she being spoon fed into at the exact time Michael Bryant is going after "street racers" Mmmmmmm!

imported_bananax

except You can't say that he didn't make the unsafe left turn anymore then you can say he was driving safely , hes an idiot, just as much as the 2 "racers" you can't prove that its their fault and not his, or vice versa,

obviously unless they were driving at some outrageous speeds, any driver can make a good call on a left turn, 20 or even 30 over, it's still easy to make a left turn decision , unless you are driving while under the influence of course

imported_Team Rukus

street racing is stupid
drinking and driving is stupid.


however there are two differences

drinking and driving doesnt just occur out of no where. you drink and then you drive which means you are fully aware that you have had drinks (doesnt matter how much you drink or how little).

street racing can be organized BUT seeing how in this case it was two cars that were apparently driven by two buddies it could just mean it was done in the spur of the moment kinda deal. WHICH would make it an act that you were not aware of as a 100 percent fact before turning your ignition on the car to start it.

Everyone who owns a licence has at one point in time gone above the speed limit.

I would love to hear from someone on here that has not gone 110 or even 120 on the highway. Or even 65 or 70 in a 60 zone. Lets not play stupid everyone has at one point in time. Now you are talking on the boards because your not in jail for killing someone. And to make matters worse it is only jail penalty if you were to have killed someone at those speed or else it would be a small pat on your back via a 110 dollar ticket.

imported_luke11

That's the DUMBEST thing i've heard..how would you like if they were "playing around" and ran over your kid brother??