imported_Bruce Fee

women's rights.

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okay everyone, just relax. it's just a joke. i truly believe every person should be treated equally, have the same opportunites, rights, and freedoms as eachother, regardless of age, sex, race, or creed.

Except for hippies. I don't like hippies.

It's just a joke.

J-SKI

no comment.

imported_Bruce Fee

so why'd you post?

imported_Moe_Mentum

I don't believe in equal rights between every person. Here are just some of the reasons where this would not work.

-Kids shouldn't have the right to gamble or drink at a young age.
-Criminals such as rapists, serial killers, child molesters should be put away for a long time (Thus lose their right to freedom)
- A person who displays more ability then another should reap the benefits of a promotion or pay increase (so technically this negates the everyone having the same opportunities)

Basically if everyone were treated equally, had the same rights, etc we'd be pretty close to a socialist country minus the freedom. On another note, women will never be equal to men just how men will never be equal to a woman. I wonder what the equal rights women complain about these days. Are there still rights that only men are entitled to still?

imported_Bruce Fee

i thought you were a little smarter than that moe.

you can't tell the different between a sweeping generalization of equality, and instead take it as a very literal, direct, and exact few sentences describing something very complex and broad?

c'mon man..

imported_Moe_Mentum

Of course I know the difference Bruce But you said "Every Person" So I thought you literally meant everyone haha You post some crazy things sometimes ya never know

But in all honesty what do people consider a sweeping generalization of equality? I don't think everyone has the same view so imo it can never be achieved.

imported_nnniiiccckkk007

Bruce is a "Manist". He is pioneering for our manly rights.

J-SKI

i posted no comment cause i wanted to let you know i read your joke but didn't want to elaborate on it.

imported_Bruce Fee

J-Ski, I'm glad you read my joke. You have changed the course of my day. Means a lot to everyone that you read it and had nothing to say.

Did I miss something? are we supposed to post something every time we read a post? wow.

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every adult individual should be given the same rights and opportunites to carve their own path without attacking the rights of other individuals unless done so in a protective or retributive manner.

there we go. i think.

J-SKI

get of the defensive smack bruce, i wasn't crapping on you or anything, i could have said a lot about womens rights but i decided not to say anything cause it was just a joke that you wrote. wasn't sticking up for women, wasn't bashing women, and i def wasn't attacking you. no, we are no suppossed to post every time we read something and i posted no comment just to let you know i do have something to say but it was a joke so no comment. it's all good in the hood yo, cheers

imported_Moe_Mentum

So with that said, do you think atleast within Canada we need to make improvements? I just thought about the above and just as an example I was thinking of Gay marriage and how it achieved equal rights. But technically does this attack the rights of those religious creeds who do not believe in Gay marriage? For instance, would a christian church have to wed a gay couple by law since they have the right, even though the church is against the practice?

J-SKI

i think everyone should be open minded and even if something exists that you do not believe in. i personally don't think a catholic or christain church should have a marry a gay couple since they don't believe in it. it should be their choice. if they're open minded enough then i think a neutral feeling priest should be brought in to handle the biz. if they don't want to then they shouldn't be forced to.

imported_Bruce Fee

no one has the right to force on belief to accept another.

you can't force a church to accept that homosexuality is not a sin, just as you cannot force a homosexual to accept that it is a sin.

imported_Moe_Mentum

Of course you cannot force them to to accept homosexuality... But what I am asking is, by law would a Homosexual couple be able to take this type of situation to court because by law they have the right to a legal marriage. So by law doesn't the church have to marry the couple? And if not could someone start a religion in which the use of marijuana is accepted even though it is not by law?

All so confusing

imported_Bruce Fee

no. they don't have the right to force a priest to marry them. a judge can do it. or a minister of a gay accepting church can do the marriage. they have the right to marriage, they do not have the right to force people to marry them.

for example, if you go to a catholic priest to marry you, at least one of you must be of catholic faith (maybe both). you cannot go in, say I WORSHIP THE DARK LORD and except he will marry you.

a government official may.

for a priest to marry you, it is understood that you accept the values, beliefs and principles that belong to his faith, that is why his god blesses the marriage.

just as you cannot force me to fix your computer, even though you are part of the public and i offer my services to the public.

get it?

i think all personal drug use should be legal.

i am against all this religious allowance. we allows sikh's to carry daggers and wear turban's in court. one head dress should have the same rules as another.

minority rights is BS. Canada has certain values, anyone who comes from a culture that disapproves is free to move back to where their own culture dominates the norm.

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J-SKI, didn't take that as an insult, it's just in all my years on the internet (i was on this before it had a GUI) 'no comment' to a post not directed at anyone is the single stupidest most pointless response i have ever seen. seriously.

imported_gatherer

Moe,

Like Bruce Fee stated. While Gays have a right to get married there is still separate of church and state. This means that if ai church does not wish to perform a marraige of any type they don't have too.

in the example of a catholic wedding the Priest will only marry a couple if they are of the catholic faith. if only one of them is catholic then the priest only agrees to marry the couple if the person that is not of the the catholic faith agrees to bring up the children as catholics.

I do agree that Minority rights in Canada need to be deleted. they discriminate against people that in some places are no longer a majority (greater then 50% of the population in an area is a majority)

again if you move to a country you should adopt that culture. if you become a citizen of that country then you should be forced to break ties and citizenship in other countries.

it's like the immigriation demostrations down in the states about the illegal immigrates. most of those demostrating are carrying Mexican flags. How can you say you have a right to live in a country when you carry the flag of a foriegn country while demostrating? that doesn't make sense. if your alliegnce is to Mexico then you should go there. Many American citizens are up in arms about this display of a foriegn flag on their soil.

imported_Bruce Fee

sun tzu said it was better to take over land through such means as opposed to war.

civicnation

i thought the joke was damn funny, LOL

Nova_Dust

Sun Tzu owns.

imported_Bruce Fee

yeah, you can say anything..

wanna hear a joke?
-minority issues
-white pride
-religion
-democracy

etc...

remember, it's not funny unless it's derogatory