viper_2_4

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ional/Ontario/

Anybody else been following this? anybody else think this is maybe the worst idea in the modern history of idea?

Because you know, segregation was wrong 100 years ago in the US, maybe it's right today?...I would tend think not...

Also, I love how Tory (conservative) loses a provincial election because people doesn't want to give money to religious school, because it would segregate the population. However, Toronto school board trustess, goes does it anyways!..except to not all groups, just one!...good work

If anything we should be moving towards a more unified education system (which would include phasing out the Catholic system), not adding another level of segregation...

These morons need to work harder to solve this problem...

fingolfin

no no
it makes sense... soon we'll have brown schools, and chinese schools, and then white schools,


but don't worry, in todays modern soceity racism doesn't exsist, so there will be problems with it

Polkaroo Killa

White people are allowed to attend this school, hence it's not segregation.

I wonder if the school will have 'Black Only' and 'White Only' drinking fountains?

viper_2_4

How many other ethnic groups get a schooling system dedicated to them??

(we'll ignore the Catholic system, because it's been around forever, and still isn't right)

Your right it's not literal segregation, but targeting towards a certain group...pretty close

LEITNER

where in the world did this idea come from? seriously. what idiot sat down and came up with this? tax dollars well spent....

Double B

It's a terrible idea. My opinion, they want a quick fix for what they feel teachers aren't able to do, and apeasing the community calling for this school. From my understanding the school program has to be the same regardless and they can add a class that is more suited to the individuals attending this school i.e. more black history. So everything in this school will be no different other than the odd class here and there and maybe more black teachers.

Problem with this getting off is one, they do not have the budget for it, they have to work with the existing one and will not be getting any extra money for it. Second, if Student White and Student Black is in the same class, why is it that Student A has no problem passing and is not dropping out, but Student Black is? It's because of the lack of parenting. These parents leave the blame on the school system 100% and to me that is bull****! If your kid is stuggling or having issues in school, it is your responsibility as a parent to either get the kid extra help, or have him go to another school that may be able to help your child with whatever challenges he may have.

My daughter has had problems early in her years of school being in split classes, and if you have never been in one, it's harder for some kids that fall back because the teacher is teaching two classes in one. So what did we do? We got her a tutor and she had benefitted from it big time. This was in Grade 1 and Grade 3. Now she is efficient in her work, gets high marks and is a great student.

Parents need to take responsibility and step up instead of playing the blame game.

Jay P

Werd!

Nova_Dust

I don't walk around with a mirror in front of my face. I see a man as if I am the same race as he - he is my mirror, he who stands in front of me becomes me.

You can excel in rocket science, but you cannot get over the simpliest thing in life - skin colour.

Cynikal.Mindset

Catholic School Board FTMFW!!!!

without that you wouldnt have catholic school girls in quilts or whatever

Polkaroo Killa

Finally, some logical thinking!

I have a prime spot in the school parking lot once that bell goes off. My reward after a long work day.

They call me daddy 'with the candy'.

screwface

i think there just might be something to this, and i would much rather give my tax dollars to such schools than to religious schools. i'm first gen of my fam in canada and had no problems getting thru highschool despite lack of courses to address my eastern european heritage, but then again, i'm white. racism was totally obvious while i was in highschool and there are probably still a lot of racist kids who pick these notions up from their parents and take it into the classroom.

hell, who's to say the teachers themselves aren't racist as well? any solution that leads to a better educated public is a good idea to me. if these new schools allow white kids to attend to that will be even better because it won't be promoting racism of any type, it will just mean there are less racist white kids because racist parents obviously won't send their kids to a school where the majority of students/teachers[?] are black.

seems like an interesting social reform project

Double B

I am a first generation black of west indian decent, and I grew up in Quebec, so not only did I have to fight racism going to school in the 70's and 80's for my skin colour but also had to deal with being english in a french province. My wife also of west indian decent and first generation had to go to school in the same province but her parents sent her to french school, not french immersion but complete and total french. So I don't see where what you are saying has anything to do with what they propose. If what this committee and community say is true, both my wife and I should have dropped out or failed school because we didn't have a "familiar" setting to our background

Racism is not going away and there maybe some favourtism on the teachers part, but it can't be all of them and possibly a small percentage of them that are.


Does that mean that black teachers aren't racist? Does that mean that if white kids went to this school and they "allow" non black kids or other races to attend, that black teachers will give them the same attention that they do black children? Can you guarantee that?

This is such a 10 step backwards in thinking it really got me pissed off. I hope to god that they do not do this and realize what they are doing is wrong and look at what the real problem is and take care of it accordingly.

Pyro

i've been following the events pretty closely and i'm hoping the release a report on their actual findings so i can actually see what happened and what their thought process is.

I've had a couple discussions with some friends about it and we're all against it and think there are better ways to address the concerns that they have. At any rate, i guess we'll all just have to sit tight and see what happens.

gatherer

well said ... and that is what makes you a great Parent....

My Father attended every Parent Teacher interview and spoke to each of my teachers right through highschool .. when I fell behind in a class he was the first one to make sure I got caught up and understood the material I was having trouble with .. then again he was a teacher in a college so he understood how the process was suppose to work.

zyepher

****** is still gona *** up regardless only diff is white people just wont be around as much

kruption

Very well said. I grew up in Saint Bruno and Verdun so I can at least understand the English barrier you've encountered.

As far as the whole modern day education system?

The Prussia factor
A Little more on it
A little book by John Taylor Gatto

nolimtzel

x2(not the way you worded it though)
these schools are just gonna become a place where they will send all the thugs and hooligans.

i can gaurantee you that on the first day of school, somebody will get knifed or shot.

starboy869

I'm in the same boat x3

I wonder what the drop out rate would be?

Notorious

I think its a horrible idea. Its the parents fault, not the schools.

nolimtzel

what i dont understand is why arent asian or south asian kids failing?
i mean when i went to high school(2 years ago) they never taught us about ghandi or mau, yet asian and indian students are growing to be the largest portion of university and college population.