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Old 08-Jul-2005, 11:15 AM
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weapons?

hey guys,

just wanted to know if anyone carries any weapons in their cars...for, you know, "self defence".....

i personally have an asp.
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Old 08-Jul-2005, 11:21 AM
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I'm not 100% sure abut this, but having any weapon within easy reach while you are in the driver's seat is very much illegal. If you keep it in the trunk, that is fine. Though, while in the trunk, it is pretty much useless. I know that having a bat in the car is illegal without a ball and glove. I know that you can't have a tire iron inside the cab of the car.

I keep dog repelent in the glove box myself, because I am terrified of strange dogs.
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Old 08-Jul-2005, 11:23 AM
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I think you just open a can of worms with this thread. Carrying weapons in your car?
 
Old 08-Jul-2005, 11:31 AM
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nope.

If I can get to my car, I'd rather run the person over.

I used to have knuckles in my spare tire comparment, but I've grown up now. I've been in one real street fight my entire life and it was over in under a minute.

I think the whole "yo, they dissin us, we gots to deal 'em, i'm old school" thing is a little immature, stupid, and has a lot to do with the negative turn society is going towards.

my question is do you properly know how to use an asp? if you don't hit with the tip, you're not going to get that much of a good crack at the guy.. if you are rushed in close, unless you are using the butt end to hit the guy (like stabbing with an ice pick).. or you're using the asp to tie/trap up the guys arms, it is essentially useless.

if you walk to your car and get something, it's no longer self defence. I don't think you can really argue that.

if you want to carry a weapon, go for it, but if you don't think you're going to use it, it's better not to.

just my thoughts
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Old 08-Jul-2005, 11:36 AM
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exactly there are a lot of courses that officers take and security guards and what have you...on proper use of a baton. . .
how to properly keep the baton in ur hand as well..if someone is grabbing at it. . . Knowing the proper strike spots on the body is also important, as u can seriuosly injure someone if u don't know how to use it properly. . . .

etc. . .


weapons in the car are pretty much useless......just a saftey blanket if u ask me...to make the driver feel more comfy. . .

be confident in ur fighting abilities and urself and u should be good if worse comes to worse

the smart person....would choose to walk away
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Old 08-Jul-2005, 11:40 AM
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its intention is to not pick fights....i would rather walk away 99% of the time. however, there is that 1% where you cannot for whatever reason...

sure its illegal...but so are most mufflers.
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Old 08-Jul-2005, 11:43 AM
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its intention is to not pick fights....i would rather walk away 99% of the time. however, there is that 1% where you cannot for whatever reason...

sure its illegal...but so are most mufflers.

Um, big difference is illegal buddy
 
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first off, it out ONLY come out if need be. what kind of court would charge you with using a weapon when the guy/guys attacked you first?

secondly, if a cop pulls you over for whatever reason, you have to be an idiot to show him the asp. he cannot search your car. and if he can search your car (with a warrant), you probably have bigger problems that just carrying an asp (ie drug related).

im not asking for justification...just a simple "what do you have" because i know a lot of people have stuff.
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Originally posted by t_dot_porkchop
first off, it out ONLY come out if need be. what kind of court would charge you with using a weapon when the guy/guys attacked you first?

secondly, if a cop pulls you over for whatever reason, you have to be an idiot to show him the asp. he cannot search your car. and if he can search your car (with a warrant), you probably have bigger problems that just carrying an asp (ie drug related).

im not asking for justification...just a simple "what do you have" because i know a lot of people have stuff.
I'm sure a court wouldn't charge you, but the person who got hit by the baton would sue . . if seriously injured enough, and an officer can press charges on behalf of w/e. . .

true enough though u never asked if this was right or wrong

but we are just lettin yah know.......you know. . .

for your own personal saftey and other drivers saftey. . .

once a weapon is pulled u've escalated the situation way higher then it needs to be. . . .

just advice really....not judging you
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Old 08-Jul-2005, 12:15 PM
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A screwdriver can be deadly. A tire iron can be deadly.

You don't need a weapon, it is your mind that makes the simplest things become harmful and deadly to others.
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Doesn't matter what you have in the car, if you use it to inflict harm on anyone, it is considered a weapon, like in Nova's examples. The fact that you carry something in your car as a weapon to me is wrong.
 
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first off, it out ONLY come out if need be. what kind of court would charge you with using a weapon when the guy/guys attacked you first?
Actually, our courts would. You are only allowed to use equal force to what is brought at you. If you are being attacked with a knife, you are allowed to pull a knife as well. If you were to pull a gun however, it is excessive force and you are going to jail. That is our Canadian court system. So if you are being attacked by a big guy with his bare hands and you pull that ASP, you my friend are screwed.

That is why I like my pepper spray. It is the safest weapon you can have because it doesn't actually damage the person being sprayed, just hurts like a ****. It is completely legal to carry as long as you have a legit reason to carry it. A fear of strange dogs is fine. It IS ILLEGAL to use on another person but in pure self defense, I'll take my chances. Besides, I can gas somebody and then leave the scene without actually have to worry about fighting.
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pepper spray sounds good too....
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Old 08-Jul-2005, 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by t_dot_porkchop
first off, it out ONLY come out if need be. what kind of court would charge you with using a weapon when the guy/guys attacked you first?

secondly, if a cop pulls you over for whatever reason, you have to be an idiot to show him the asp. he cannot search your car. and if he can search your car (with a warrant), you probably have bigger problems that just carrying an asp (ie drug related).

im not asking for justification...just a simple "what do you have" because i know a lot of people have stuff.
if the guys attacked you first and you were able to make it back to your car get a weapon and head back and kick some *** with it that's assault just like what they did to you.

Show me a scenario where you are underattack and your able to walk to your car, unlock your car, grab your weapon and turn around and start using it while the other people what... sit there and wait for you to ready yourself?
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LOL this thread makes me think of that scene in "Swingers" when they're leaving the bar and some guys bump into one of them so he pulls a gun.

Seriously what do you need a weapon for? "Incase someone steps to you, snoop dogg?" You are in your car, just drive away.
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i have my fists y0... some kid had the **** beat out of him at timmy's last night i just pulled in so i didn't see everything.. but there was blood everywhere.. poor guy.. three on one
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a weapon would level the playing field in sitautions like 2on1 or 3on1....see how brave a guy gets when his buddies kneecap just got smashed.

i would rather walk/drive away too....but like i said, 1% of the time you cant.
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a weapon would level the playing field in sitautions like 2on1 or 3on1....see how brave a guy gets when his buddies kneecap just got smashed.

i would rather walk/drive away too....but like i said, 1% of the time you cant.
Ok, like have you had many incidents where you have been in these situations? If not, I think you are being a little bit paranoid.
 
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Ok, like have you had many incidents where you have been in these situations? If not, I think you are being a little bit paranoid.
Exactly.

Plus if you pull a weapon (that you don't know how to use btw, it's harder then just swinging) and somehow don't end the fight with it, you're pretty much toast cause you're gonna get beat alot harder.

And I don't see a situation where you are in your car and its 3 on 1 and you can't just drive away.
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whatever, you guys sound like a bunch of

if one of your buddies is getting his *** kicked for whatever reason....you just drive off? no, you grab you **** and start busting some ***.
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