ELECTRA

Am I the only one who notices that VW's (Gulf, Jetta) ALWAYS have a taillight out???
Stuff like that makes me wonder about the overall quality. BTW don't you think the owners would complain and have the wireing checked or something.


Opinions?? Ideas??

imported_QUICKONTHEGAS

VW = BAD WIREING
Three of my buddys had that problem within the first three months of buying the car.

imported_GoldBadge

They drive nice and feel solid. That's about it.

Cynikal.Mindset

vw taillights are always on, off or the reverse light it on...horrid wiring in those things

vw and honda should combine as one and make a solid, rust free, well wired car

imported_viper_2_4

I have heard about wiring problems with those cars.....and consumer reports is always giving them a mediocre review.....not very good cars...

imported_GoldBadge

Gotta love that Gerpanese Engineering.

B18C|

older VW's have probs...not all do...
96+ are fine...

Middlemiss

iTrader: (2)

^^^^negative..

civic-chick

i love how everyone thinks their opinion is right... have any of you guys ever actually owned a VW newer than a 10 years old? have any of you ever worked on a newer VW? have any of you ever worked FOR VW? Get your fact straight before bashing the product... YES older VWs are known to have wiring problems... but what car doesnt have its one or two signature issues (id rather have to replace a bulb once in awhile or get some wiring issue fixed thru warranty than have to redo the whole body on my car 5 years down the road because its rusted to ****). Dont get me wrong, obviously im a honda enthusiast... but VW is a totally different flavour... especially new ones. Not better, just not really a fair comparison.

imported_gatherer

LOL this thread is funny...

anyways anyone ever notice how all 5th gen civic have rear quarter panel rust? it's so ugly

taillight, or quarter panel rust, take your pick.. also I drive a honda and I have a rear tail lightthats out. it was out for awhile before I found I found out. how many people actually go to look back there... then I found out and got lazy

imported_Dawson

yeah V dubs have horide wiring problems there electrical gremlins everywhere in all there cars

ELECTRA

I would have to dissagree that ONLY the OLDER Jettas and Gulfs have taillights out.
Every day (yes every day!!) I see Newer VW's with tailights out.

I have yet to see a 2001 or newer Civic with rust on the quarter panel.

BTW: Regardless of year, I apply Por-15 to rust prone areas of my cars.

imported_Dawson

^^ yeah honda`s finally started to do something about there little cancer rust problem but even a 2001-up civic shouldnt start rusting yet but ive seen 2000`s with rust and i couldnt beleive it

imported_Zyepher

Vw...bad wiring...Honda=rust like crazy...my mom has a 03 tdi and shes driven it about 55 km so far and she not recieved ONE problem yet..you guys that have complaints should tell your friends to stop bying pieces of crap.

ELECTRA

Hey Zyepher! 55Km??? Or 55,000??

Anyway, next time you see your mom, stand behind the car and have her step on the brake.....you'll have your answer.

imported_Zyepher

55,000....Don't worry about that, her jetta is her prized possesion..

imported_kIeRaN

has anyone noticed in their 5th gen civic that there drivers side lock is busted?

showcivic

i worked on plenty of VW and Audi and they are POS, i rather work on a volvo ...

Cynikal.Mindset

now thats just insanity!

vEXed

oil changes don't count


Everyone has their own opinion....but until you actually have real first hand knowledge about something - keep your mouth shut.

Go to VWVortex.com - and go see what they say about Honda's..........the word "Honda" seldomly appears.....there is now a universal word called RlCE (hey, don't shoot the messanger)


My point is....if the worst you can come up with is a busted tail light bulb......don't you think that VW's aren't as bad as you think?



The war will always continue......VW Honda.......but who's to say which is better? As REAL enthusiasts, people should find love in all cars....except Kia's.