vEXed

Oh yeah.....didn't anybody notice.............all you see on a VW, are the tail lights? If you where able to catch up....maybe you'd see the missing dummy reflectors in the front =)

Younes Si

just look at the rims/front end if you see one
leave the 5th gen outta this :cry:

by the way, everytime i'm near a vw, it sounds like the timing belt or somthing like that is about to go, the car is soo loud (not a good loud)

Younes Si

that's what i thought too....even the acura lengends do the same thing.....the driver side door lock is NOT busted, you have to pull the handel and lock it...HOWEVER, if your in the car, the lock works fine because the door is closed, it's just a safety feture honda added

imported_SaYjAiBaO

i heard they start to fall apart after 60000km.

imported_jaysi

Maybe VW just uses low quality bulbs that always burn out?

imported_kIeRaN

i know but because people never know that u have to pull the handle, they just try and push the lock which breaks the actual lock mechanism switch so u cant lock the door from the inside anymore, my old car had that lock broken when i bought it, my new car has that lock broken, my brothers 5th gen has that lock broken, my buddies 5th gen si has that lock broken too

vEXed

Here we go again.....rumors....hearsay.......get your facts straight before you post nonsense.

imported_viper_2_4

I don't know, I see a lot of unbiased (well the claim to be) reviews in magazines like Consumer Reports and such knocking the current generation Jetta/Golf for being unreliable, and is not on thier recomended list, well cars like the Ford Focus, Civic, Corolla are recommended, so I don't know....

imported_L85

ISN'T all VW in north america made in mexico, where labour is cheap and they really don't know what they are doing????


I think this is the reason, VW wants to save money in North america, so cars are built in mexico.

All other cars are manufactured in the States or Canada, VW is very popular in other countries like ASIA and they last a very long time specially the diesel engines.

imported_JookSingKid

Whats the deal with the solar panels you plug into the cigarette lighters and have to leave on your dash on the newer VWs?

Import Racer

vEXed

I see those at the dealerships - supposed to save the "drain time" of the battery when the cars are out in the lot.

Wal Mart and Crappy Tire are starting to sell them now too.

My buddy picked one up for his 89 CRX - left it in while he was on a 3-week vacation - his '01 Caravan had to get a battery boost, while the REX started up 1-time.


Good for Darknights - when you're running your system all day.

Younes Si

good idea , i'm going to tell my buddy about that

imported_Team Rukus

to answer your question have i owned a vw umm no but my girlfriend did. have i worked on a newer vw (SEVERAL times), have i worked for VW nope but what does it matter since i see them all the time come in to my place.

yes older vw's are known for wiring issues but guess what? nothing has changed since then. Like 98 percent of all german cars VW is a piece of **** when it comes to maintanence. Why? well it has something to do with them trying to look luxurious. you see to remove a honda bumper say on a ek model. all it takes is litteraly 5 mins. try doing that on a bmw, benz, vw, audi HAHAHA your looking at about 30 mins. Y? the way its fuking made, they hide everything, unneccesary clips, bolts, covers, then you finally get it off and then there is another set of crap hiding the thing your trying to get at.
IMO ****ing stupid. try changing the heater blower or even fix it on a vw (and oh yea they are well known for it.) GOOD ****ING LUCK unless you got about 3 days dont even attempt it cuz you got to take the entire dash out and remove all the components near it to get to it. oh and on a civic all it takes is dropping the glovebox.

yes honda's rust. but guess what? who the **** cares, the majority of honda rust occurs 10 years into the cars history (providing it was maintained atleast half decent) by that time people tend to throw those cars out or get new cars anyways so people getting those 10 year old cars shouldnt expect something out of this world. and they already found a way to slow the rust down on their quater panels. and that is remove that stupid rubber they put on it and they are using newer metals from what i hear.

imported_QUICKONTHEGAS

Okay this thread should officially be renamed...

CIVIC VS V-DUB: Rust Or Wires

RIPVR6

Burnt out tail light is like $3 for 2.....big deal??????? A VW taillight is on all the time. You guys can be serious when you say the car is poor quality over a tailight???? I love hondas, but would you rather have a burnt tailight or a rusted quarter panel???? Common ppl, lets be serious.

vEXed

How many "luxuious" Japanese cars do you know of?

Maintenance is maintenance - yes, it may be easy for you to work on Civics - you're used to it. Just the same as a VW mechanic will say how easy it is to work on VW's.


So to recap - any vehicle where it takes more than 5 minutes to take off a bumper - it's garbage?
How many times have you seen an EK whre there is literally, a hole in the bumper? They are made so thin and lightweight, that it only takes 4 screws to hold 'em in. Go to Pacific Mall, and you can see Civics where the washer fluid reservoir tank is in plain sight.


The EK is going to be 10 years old soon - are you seriously telling people not to expect anything out of their cars?



Who do you think is buying up all the MK4 VW's?

TheModFather

yes i HAVE worked for VW and have experienced the the MK4's as an apprentice. firstly the 1.8t is having horrible sluging problems especially the passat/a4 1.8t due to it's low oil capacity + really hot running turbos. the TDI's fry out their glow plug harnesses regularly, also on some of the older ones, the coolant bottle leaks into the wiring attatched to it, the coolant uses capillary action to flow along the wirign, slowly resting at the lowest point by the driver side headlight, slowly corroding away athe the connector and frying out the entire engien harness and cluster and ecu etc. etc. etc. the NEW TDi motor that just came out in 04 has it's problems starting when it's cold... and has a recall or TSB on that whatever....
the 2.0L engine, most burn oil right out of the factory... just shows taht the dealership actually DOESN'T use the correct spec oil for the car, (they use the right grade but the wrong API specs)
lets not get into the window in teh door phenomenon, or the 1.8t coil packs hell all the coil packs, especiallty since a VR6 coil costs upwards of 500$
or teh MAF sensors on 2.0L glad to see VW even out the price of all these sensors
or the o2 sensors and cats on 2.0L
OR the wheel bearings that go soo very often.
or teh VR6 intake manifolds taht crack so often

and yes every other car taht came in had at least 1 bulb out...

CrazyKid

hehehe can i respond Jess???

hmmmm Honda or VW? you choose Honda at the time... hehehe... oh well.. your right alot of people make false assumptions, and go on hear say or what tehy read on the internet... oh well.. thier loss...

Although... I would still have to choose Honda..

Gunmetalef

mercedes always has that prob too