When are the going to demolish these corvettes?
21-Jun-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Double_B
I would like a response from Marker on why he thinks the cars were crushed and shown publically in pretty much all the papers and the news. Obviously to make a point, so..............what is it?
I would like a response from Marker on why he thinks the cars were crushed and shown publically in pretty much all the papers and the news. Obviously to make a point, so..............what is it?
Isn't it obvious? The cars were crushed to make the point that you will LOSE your cars if caught street racing.
The law was only recently amended to allow this to happen, and these were first up on the plate. The timing is right - it's the beginning of the street racing season - and these two cars just happened to be available. They weren't seized because they were Hondas - they were seized because the owners had been caught and CONVICTED for racing on the street.
By crushing them publicly, they drove home the point in no uncertain terms to anyone who street races that they will lose your cars if convicted with no hope of ever getting them back. That's a much greater detrrent than just risking a few demerit points and a piddly $500 or $1,000 fine.
As to deciding who is or who is not a street racer, it's the driving and not the car that defines this. The two Hondas were caught in separate instances of street racing. They weren't seized for being Hondas.
The two Corvettes are also suspected of street racing, have been seized, and may be forfeit on conviction. Ditto the Mercedes on Mt Pleasant and the Mercedes on Mavis, and the Civic up in Stoufville. Final disposition on the cars may vary - a heavily modded car should be crushed or donated to fire/rescue departments for training purposes, but a bone stock and undamaged car with decent market value can be better utilized by auctioning it off and using the proceeds for victim services.
If that means more older Civics are crushed than newer Mercedes, I have absolutely no issue with that, just so long as cars of any make are equally removed from convicted street racer's hands.
21-Jun-2006, 01:23 PM
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What division do you work in Marker ...haha!
If they really want to drive home the fact that you will lose your car they would crush one of the high end cars ... it only makes sense. Are there any high end cars in the impound who's owner has been convicted of street racing ... who knows? People with high end cars have more money to escape such charges ... I do however think it's a bit early to state one way or another whether or not they will be destroying all "street racing" vehicles. It is a dumb idea ... these cars should be put to good use ... that being said I think the publicity stunt has worked ... it's got us talking .............. oh wait I have an idea .... stop racing on the streets you f-ing morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they really want to drive home the fact that you will lose your car they would crush one of the high end cars ... it only makes sense. Are there any high end cars in the impound who's owner has been convicted of street racing ... who knows? People with high end cars have more money to escape such charges ... I do however think it's a bit early to state one way or another whether or not they will be destroying all "street racing" vehicles. It is a dumb idea ... these cars should be put to good use ... that being said I think the publicity stunt has worked ... it's got us talking .............. oh wait I have an idea .... stop racing on the streets you f-ing morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21-Jun-2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by Malarky
If they really want to drive home the fact that you will lose your car they would crush one of the high end cars ... it only makes sense. Are there any high end cars in the impound who's owner has been convicted of street racing ... who knows?
If they really want to drive home the fact that you will lose your car they would crush one of the high end cars ... it only makes sense. Are there any high end cars in the impound who's owner has been convicted of street racing ... who knows?
Originally posted by Malarky
I do however think it's a bit early to state one way or another whether or not they will be destroying all "street racing" vehicles. It is a dumb idea ... these cars should be put to good use ...
I do however think it's a bit early to state one way or another whether or not they will be destroying all "street racing" vehicles. It is a dumb idea ... these cars should be put to good use ...
Originally posted by Malarky
oh wait I have an idea .... stop racing on the streets you f-ing morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh wait I have an idea .... stop racing on the streets you f-ing morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21-Jun-2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by Cynikal.Mindset
would this discussion be happening if it was cavaliers that were crushed?
would this discussion be happening if it was cavaliers that were crushed?
Not too crazy when ignorant people (police and newscasters) want to crush these cars. It's like crushing art as far as I see it.
21-Jun-2006, 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by echien
Not too crazy when ignorant people (police and newscasters) want to crush these cars. It's like crushing art as far as I see it.
Not too crazy when ignorant people (police and newscasters) want to crush these cars. It's like crushing art as far as I see it.
....... who cares what happens to a convicted street racers car? Stop racing on the streets and you will never have to worry about it ... you can go back to hating cops for pulling you over for regular offenses instead. I drive a civic and I hate getting pulled over ... and yes I beleive that I am targeted over a plain jane car ... it sucks but again don't break the law and you won't have any trouble.
21-Jun-2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by marker
Isn't it obvious? The cars were crushed to make the point that you will LOSE your cars if caught street racing.
The law was only recently amended to allow this to happen, and these were first up on the plate. The timing is right - it's the beginning of the street racing season - and these two cars just happened to be available. They weren't seized because they were Hondas - they were seized because the owners had been caught and CONVICTED for racing on the street.
By crushing them publicly, they drove home the point in no uncertain terms to anyone who street races that they will lose your cars if convicted with no hope of ever getting them back. That's a much greater detrrent than just risking a few demerit points and a piddly $500 or $1,000 fine.
As to deciding who is or who is not a street racer, it's the driving and not the car that defines this. The two Hondas were caught in separate instances of street racing. They weren't seized for being Hondas.
The two Corvettes are also suspected of street racing, have been seized, and may be forfeit on conviction. Ditto the Mercedes on Mt Pleasant and the Mercedes on Mavis, and the Civic up in Stoufville. Final disposition on the cars may vary - a heavily modded car should be crushed or donated to fire/rescue departments for training purposes, but a bone stock and undamaged car with decent market value can be better utilized by auctioning it off and using the proceeds for victim services.
If that means more older Civics are crushed than newer Mercedes, I have absolutely no issue with that, just so long as cars of any make are equally removed from convicted street racer's hands.
Isn't it obvious? The cars were crushed to make the point that you will LOSE your cars if caught street racing.
The law was only recently amended to allow this to happen, and these were first up on the plate. The timing is right - it's the beginning of the street racing season - and these two cars just happened to be available. They weren't seized because they were Hondas - they were seized because the owners had been caught and CONVICTED for racing on the street.
By crushing them publicly, they drove home the point in no uncertain terms to anyone who street races that they will lose your cars if convicted with no hope of ever getting them back. That's a much greater detrrent than just risking a few demerit points and a piddly $500 or $1,000 fine.
As to deciding who is or who is not a street racer, it's the driving and not the car that defines this. The two Hondas were caught in separate instances of street racing. They weren't seized for being Hondas.
The two Corvettes are also suspected of street racing, have been seized, and may be forfeit on conviction. Ditto the Mercedes on Mt Pleasant and the Mercedes on Mavis, and the Civic up in Stoufville. Final disposition on the cars may vary - a heavily modded car should be crushed or donated to fire/rescue departments for training purposes, but a bone stock and undamaged car with decent market value can be better utilized by auctioning it off and using the proceeds for victim services.
If that means more older Civics are crushed than newer Mercedes, I have absolutely no issue with that, just so long as cars of any make are equally removed from convicted street racer's hands.
Thank you, you just proved my point. Yes it is obvious, but if they want to make a point, I don't care what the value of the car it albeit a civic or a vette, it should be the same for them all. Yes the cars are all off the street in the end, but if they are going to drive a point, again as I have said in just about every post, be consistant.
Yes you can say who cares, but no matter what you say on this board, it will always be a status thing for people here who own the lessor cars, that is the only thing they are going to see and see it as them being targeted.
It's more than just getting street racers off the street.
21-Jun-2006, 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Malarky
in your eyes I guess it's okay to crush the parents of a little girl but heaven forbid you should crush the cars of the idiots that killed them.I know what you really mean to say is "it sucks to see a nice car crushed" so why don't you just say that.
in your eyes I guess it's okay to crush the parents of a little girl but heaven forbid you should crush the cars of the idiots that killed them.I know what you really mean to say is "it sucks to see a nice car crushed" so why don't you just say that.
And when did I say street racing is okay? And crushing the parents of a little girl?
21-Jun-2006, 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by Double_B
Yes you can say who cares, but no matter what you say on this board, it will always be a status thing for people here who own the lessor cars, that is the only thing they are going to see and see it as them being targeted.
It's more than just getting street racers off the street.
Yes you can say who cares, but no matter what you say on this board, it will always be a status thing for people here who own the lessor cars, that is the only thing they are going to see and see it as them being targeted.
It's more than just getting street racers off the street.
Seized is seized. Never getting it back is never getting it back, regardless of what happens to the car after that.
21-Jun-2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by marker
Ask the owner of a high end car that has been seized if he doesn't feel just as targeted by the cops when they take away his car as does the owner of a Honda.
Seized is seized. Never getting it back is never getting it back, regardless of what happens to the car after that.
Ask the owner of a high end car that has been seized if he doesn't feel just as targeted by the cops when they take away his car as does the owner of a Honda.
Seized is seized. Never getting it back is never getting it back, regardless of what happens to the car after that.
I have said my peace.
21-Jun-2006, 06:18 PM
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piece..
sp ownz u
marker, you speak of selling off the assets to help support the victims..
so 40G for a vette and 5G for a civic, right?
so the vette is worth more and goes to help the victims better.....??
i dunna think so..
wouldn't the more righteous thing be to say that every cent helps when it comes to helping those who are victims of crime?? i fail to see where the value of a car comes into play when in the end it comes down to a dollar sign and the help every single dollar could provide
and...so all they had in the lot were civics??
no dodge caravans?? no bmws?? no mitzies?? no cavs?? just those 2 civics there that have been involved in SRing and nothing else?? i'd love to see their inventory sheet.......
and imo, it would have been more of a statement crushing a pristine $55,000 vette over a $10,000 civic
this is the beginning of SR season??
maybe if it had been done BEFORE the recent tragedies, rather than after a few people would still be alive...kinda makes ya wonder
a few lives get lost and THEN the power-plan gets rolled out
they timed it pretty good in relation to the new FF release instead tho....hmmmmmm
they're AGAIN, being reactive rather than proactive
and no, i'm not talking about the cops here, imo they should be proud of what they do, they have my utmost respect......... in my comments i'm referring to those politically benefitted
sp ownz u
marker, you speak of selling off the assets to help support the victims..
so 40G for a vette and 5G for a civic, right?
so the vette is worth more and goes to help the victims better.....??
i dunna think so..
wouldn't the more righteous thing be to say that every cent helps when it comes to helping those who are victims of crime?? i fail to see where the value of a car comes into play when in the end it comes down to a dollar sign and the help every single dollar could provide
and...so all they had in the lot were civics??
no dodge caravans?? no bmws?? no mitzies?? no cavs?? just those 2 civics there that have been involved in SRing and nothing else?? i'd love to see their inventory sheet.......
and imo, it would have been more of a statement crushing a pristine $55,000 vette over a $10,000 civic
this is the beginning of SR season??
maybe if it had been done BEFORE the recent tragedies, rather than after a few people would still be alive...kinda makes ya wonder
a few lives get lost and THEN the power-plan gets rolled out
they timed it pretty good in relation to the new FF release instead tho....hmmmmmm
they're AGAIN, being reactive rather than proactive
and no, i'm not talking about the cops here, imo they should be proud of what they do, they have my utmost respect......... in my comments i'm referring to those politically benefitted
21-Jun-2006, 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by Whiplash
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sp ownz u
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22-Jun-2006, 12:56 AM
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"I know one thing," Attorney General Michael Bryant said at the demolition, "that on the weekend, these cars won't be back on the streets again."
that in itself says to me that all cars confiscated in SR incidents WILL be crushed so as to get them off the road, anything else happening would be hypocritical
another quote from the Star
"Just before the latest big-budget street-racing movie hit big screens today, 20 tonnes of the law was brought down on two illegally modified cars confiscated after their owners were caught racing."
anyone got a list of the mods done??
again, i'm NOT condoning street racing...shyt i won't even take mine down the track
i'm just curious is all...
that in itself says to me that all cars confiscated in SR incidents WILL be crushed so as to get them off the road, anything else happening would be hypocritical
another quote from the Star
"Just before the latest big-budget street-racing movie hit big screens today, 20 tonnes of the law was brought down on two illegally modified cars confiscated after their owners were caught racing."
anyone got a list of the mods done??
again, i'm NOT condoning street racing...shyt i won't even take mine down the track
i'm just curious is all...
22-Jun-2006, 06:51 AM
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Probably front air dam, big a$$ spoiler, stickers.
22-Jun-2006, 03:42 PM
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Its all stupid, they shouldn't have the right to crush anyones cars, if anything take their lisence away for a long time, and have the car sold or auctioned or something.
People are killed by drunk drivers EVERY SINGLE DAY, and how come they aren't crushing their cars?
People are killed by drunk drivers EVERY SINGLE DAY, and how come they aren't crushing their cars?
22-Jun-2006, 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by echien
??? I thought that's what I said?
And when did I say street racing is okay? And crushing the parents of a little girl?
??? I thought that's what I said?
And when did I say street racing is okay? And crushing the parents of a little girl?
Let's forget about all of this and focus our efforts on stopping pointless deaths.
22-Jun-2006, 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by Connie
Its all stupid, they shouldn't have the right to crush anyones cars, if anything take their lisence away for a long time, and have the car sold or auctioned or something.
People are killed by drunk drivers EVERY SINGLE DAY, and how come they aren't crushing their cars?
Its all stupid, they shouldn't have the right to crush anyones cars, if anything take their lisence away for a long time, and have the car sold or auctioned or something.
People are killed by drunk drivers EVERY SINGLE DAY, and how come they aren't crushing their cars?
22-Jun-2006, 08:08 PM
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i knew the guy that died. this funeral was today at 10am.
26-Jun-2006, 10:13 AM
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i for one am glad they are out to crush people's cars to keep us safe.
let's all go to spadina where we can get all the drugs we want safely, because they are on the payroll and will never bust that place.
opens 9:00am on a sunday for an afterhours afterhours party.
the first thing that needs to be done is to have the pig pen cleaned out, all the dirty ones should be removed from the sty.
let's all go to spadina where we can get all the drugs we want safely, because they are on the payroll and will never bust that place.
opens 9:00am on a sunday for an afterhours afterhours party.
the first thing that needs to be done is to have the pig pen cleaned out, all the dirty ones should be removed from the sty.
26-Jun-2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by Bruce Fee
i for one am glad they are out to crush people's cars to keep us safe.
let's all go to spadina where we can get all the drugs we want safely, because they are on the payroll and will never bust that place.
opens 9:00am on a sunday for an afterhours afterhours party.
the first thing that needs to be done is to have the pig pen cleaned out, all the dirty ones should be removed from the sty.
i for one am glad they are out to crush people's cars to keep us safe.
let's all go to spadina where we can get all the drugs we want safely, because they are on the payroll and will never bust that place.
opens 9:00am on a sunday for an afterhours afterhours party.
the first thing that needs to be done is to have the pig pen cleaned out, all the dirty ones should be removed from the sty.
ahh yes ... the troooooof ! ... trust me alotta cops @ college/spadina area are lets say ... "working overtime" nuff of them are on those clubs payrolls to keep em open till 9-10-11am lol ... and then ppl wanna know why someone gets shot at the corner ...
27-Jun-2006, 01:13 PM
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why would anyone want to crush a corvette...that would be horrible!!!
REally though, I would cry.
REally though, I would cry.
