Yeah he was thinking of a GSR swap but if he only needs 250-300 whp why go that route? He also mentioned a smaller budget would be better.

Do your own kit or buy from the States, no need to spend a fricking rediculous 5-6G on a Edelbrock kit. Greddy kit's go for 1200 US on average used and are plenty reliable for 220-250 to the wheels (250 is pushing the 15G a little) with the extra you saved upgrading to say the 18G turbo will make up the difference and get to 300 whp.

You really need to state your goals and budget for sure and whether you want to achieve your goal based on efficiency or overkill.

If you are going GSR swap or going to fork out that 5-6G for a brand new edelbrock kit then yeah 10G no prob.

My point is you can do it for a hellavu lot cheaper unless you want brand new.

 

The Edelbrock kit is worth it because you are getting everything and I mean everything including the tune. You can open the boxes and have it installed in 5 hours yes five hours without running around trying to get all the parts.



Link Is Here.
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/...act/index.html

 

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Still gotta mod your stock oil pan or get a custom one...
I also don't see upgraded injectors and a fuel pump in that picture... there's more parts you'll need as well. Spending 6k on a turbo 'kit' is stupid, when you can custom fab your own for 1/2 the price.

 

yes of course it is a nice kit, but for that kind of money I could smash that setup IMO. For a new complete no hassle kit... it is great!! Too pricey for me though and like I said he has to decide does he want efficient or overkill, new or used.

 

doesn't matter... based on his questions I doubt he has the ability to do a home kit. a mook always has to pay more, cuz not only can he NOT custom fab parts... he will also get ripped along the way by ppl who'll see that he's a mook and will rip him off.

 

That is true, I would then suggest a used greddy kit so he can get familiar with things without spending that kinda cash.

 

not everyone can "fab" guys. seems to be a commonly forgotten detail. it's like saying, paying $3000 for a paint job is stupid when the materials are all under $500. well no **** sherlock, except not eveyone has a paint booth and a large compressor.

 

fp green is a great pump gas turbo and on a high revving b18c woudl probobly fair well, I've saw a t3/t4 57 trim BB on a b16 spool up real fast. And a greedy kit is garbage 18g pfft I'd rather have a turbo that had more top end pull aswell as won't spool at 2000 rpm's so I can get some traction. An fp green is good for 400 hp-450 hp and yes has gone 10's in dsm's but so has a 20g etc so...

 

Has anyone here driven a 300whp civic who has posted?? I have driven a 323whp civic hatch before and whoever said that 21 shouldnt own it is kinda right. I have tonnes of driving and racing experience and 323 was pretty hard to handle (real boost of course) The car is all over the road in the power, its a real handful, really fun for sure but the civic wasnt really made for that kind of hp. I have also drivien a 400whp audi S4 and that car is super fast but really controllable at speed. Remember the 300whp civic will probably go close to 280kmh or so and from my experince a civic with full suspension (we are talking street car not race car) will not handle very well at 240km I dont care how much you spend on suspension, and a car like that is gonna cost close to 10gs. It just plane wasnt engeneered to go that fast that quickly. You will run into braking issues and axle issues, forget about keeping tires on it. I dont mean to be negetive, but its the truth, I have spent too long to make things go faster and smoother just to have problems with regular drivablility. Just my thoughts of course

 

 

i totally agree with scott newman. I've driven a 258whp boosted b16 CRX and it was very hard to drive. Fun but hard. Torque steer was crazy!!! This car is all over the road b/c like you said it wasn't designed to have that much power or to be driven like that. This car had lots of suspension mods and it was still very squirrley.
250whp is very attainable but don't skimp on things like suspension and brakes. Because if somebody pulls out in front of you when your going 200+km/hr you need to be able to stop real quick otherwise your going to waste all of that money you just spent on making your car fast.

 

Bruno is sooooo gonna prove you wrong scotty

 

ok, ok, I have givin up!! I am gonna get a new bike this year instead!!!

 

no, no one is gonna prove scott wrong. Unless your driving in a straight line only on drag radials on the street your not gonna get any traction 1-3 and even 4th if ur in the 300-400whp. I know the car scott is talking and although I have not been in the car I know that the car has pretty much the best street tire available on the market now.

If your goal is 300whp i would say tune for 300whp but dial it down to like 200whp on the street cause there is no reason you would need 300whp daily.

 

two words for you guys:

Quaife differential

and the other trick is... to use a soft engaging clutch like the Exedy. Yeah, you may do a couple more clutch jobs than you'd like, but you're not gonna bust an axle or rip engine mounts every time you shift. Something organic/ceramic blend that'll behave well and slip when it's supposed to, yet hold down 250 torque.

 

what do you do when your tires dont grip though?

 

let off the gas?? LOL

you know in drag racing, that's why they pay pro drivers big bux... to keep traction on them tires. so yeah... learn to modulate the throttle in order to keep traction. either way, you're gonna eat tires like mad in a boosted car, just so you know. that's why stock cars use elec boost control... well partially that's why... so they can regulate the application of boost and tailor the power curve for the average driver.

 

Ugh yeah the FP could be used on the B18C but not a D series like I said. How do you figure the 18G is garbage?? It will make the power he needs and not lag like that FP would. BTW who the heck races a 4 cylinder at 2000RPM anyway, the FP would be severly underutilized for 250-300 whp IMO.

Where is this guy who started the thread anyway??

 

turbo is the way to go

 

B16 TURBO. If you on a tight Budget. B16 TURBO if you have money. Next subject!