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Old 17-Mar-2005 | 04:51 PM
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Aftermarket LSD

how hard would it be to install an aftermarket LSD in my JDM b16 Y1 transmission? im tired of merging with traffic and pegging one side.

i was looking at the OBX lsd(cheap immitation of quafie) and i was wondering if i could install it myself. i have no experiance inside of transmissions but i do have mechanical ability, i have had the whole car apart and did the b16 swap myself.just not been inside a tranny(i have dont clutches just not inside the tranny housing).

also, what limited slip should i order for my CABLE Y1 transmission? and what else would i need once i get the LSD to do the install properly?

if anyone else has any pointers/oppinions on LSD's or their install shout.

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Old 17-Mar-2005 | 05:02 PM
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you can jsut get a cheap phantom grip insert...or go and get the quafe....you need to pull out everything from the tranny to get to the diferential....not to bad cause you keep everythign on the shafts etc...it's not to bad but still is a bitch and I woudln't bother....if you want to though get a good manual cause there will be certain procedures tools possible.
Old 17-Mar-2005 | 05:30 PM
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the OBX one is exacty the quafie unit but made by their place... would that not be better than the phantom grip

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Old 17-Mar-2005 | 05:40 PM
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I bought an OEM piece off eBay for $250us. I'd try there first. OEM quality for super cheap.

Look up eBay seller Japandy ... he useally has them for B16
Old 17-Mar-2005 | 05:47 PM
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how strong would they be? would they take much more power than stock without blowing out in the tranny?

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Old 17-Mar-2005 | 06:06 PM
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you have a b16 I dont' think you will be making any lsd breaking torque any time soon..lol...even then you will spin your tires..aslong as you dont' have a puck disc with slicks you should be fine if you don't pull rice boy clutch drops every 2 seconds with 400 hp and slicks..lol
Old 17-Mar-2005 | 11:00 PM
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the OBX isnt identical to the quaife unit, someone pulled one apart and it had alot of parts reversed and parts not torqued properly etc.
Old 17-Mar-2005 | 11:06 PM
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so open it up and tighten them down... doesnt make sense to me to pay over doub;e the price to pay for them to torque it down...
i would take it apart anyways i doint trust other peoples work

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Old 17-Mar-2005 | 11:07 PM
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and yes, i read the thread on honda tech about them... i still say OBX... they have a LIFETIME warantee!

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Old 18-Mar-2005 | 08:39 AM
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I'm in the market for LSD as well.. But I'm pretty sure I won't be exceeding 250whp so I'm thinking of buying either OEM or buying a TYPE-S tranny and selling mine.
Old 18-Mar-2005 | 10:21 AM
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OEM LSD YEEEEESSSS!! I more vote for brotha JapAndy

OBX... NOOOOOO!!!! have you read threads on them?? improperly torqued bolts, improperly installed spring nuts (rendering them ineffective), etc etc...

install is pretty hard, you have to reshim the whole tranny case, setting backlash and clearances and so on. not impossible with a Helms and a feeler gauge and... on of those... what's it called.... DIAL gauges.
Old 18-Mar-2005 | 11:12 AM
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Setting the clearances on a differential really isn't that hard, even easier with a selection of shims. You just have to measure everything up properly so your not doing the job TOO many times.

Helms manual is your friend.

Oh, and Bruno, it's a Dial Indicator =0), people especially in the industry look at you "funny" when you say dial gauge, unless you know, your into that sort of thing.
Old 18-Mar-2005 | 11:52 AM
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LOL... yeah I couldn't think of it... I had my Mitutoyo one pictured in my head but... last nights drinks killed my brain
Old 18-Mar-2005 | 12:25 PM
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what about phantom grip???? do they make honda ones??
Old 18-Mar-2005 | 01:43 PM
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phantom grip is t3h g/\y
Old 18-Mar-2005 | 08:54 PM
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haha i just saw an ad in a mag... thats all
Old 18-Mar-2005 | 09:28 PM
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haha i just saw an ad in a mag... thats all
they are not real differentials
Old 19-Mar-2005 | 08:49 AM
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but has anyone north of the border bought one (OBX) and have any personal experience?

How screwed up can they truly be?

It sure would make winter driving a whole lot more pleasant than spinning the inside tire in 1cm of snow.

I'm 80% committed to getting a seperate d-series tranny for the OBX LSD installation so that I have my original tranny as backup in case of failure, and to minimize downtime for the installation of the unit into the trannny.

Any supporters for this idea?

Anyone have a layout of the OBX design so that the correct assembly of the LSD can be confirmed or corrected if bolts / washers / pins / rings are improperly installed?


thanks for your ideas
Old 19-Mar-2005 | 10:21 AM
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^^ excactly....

i am having problems keeping all seasons on my car cuz it just spins like mad, even dry. vtec in 1st 2nd and 3rd just spins... and snow driving is scary, always pegs one side then swirves all over, i need a fix for this...

but right now its not running... no effin spark!

-Matt
Old 19-Mar-2005 | 10:58 AM
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OBX, all of the way. don't listen to the fools that say its a cheap imitation of a quaife. its a good quality part, has a lifetime warrantee, and, has supported over 600whp on a turbo hatch in the US. i'm talking, 7K clutch dump on a motor that makes 550+whp and a 150 shot of NOS. if that makes it poor quality, then send me a dozen. it is by far the best aftermarket deal of the last year or so.


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