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Old 06-Jan-2005 | 04:29 PM
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Why don't you call around to a few engine importers?

Why don't you research the HP/Torque # for the b16a and b18c engine?

If I were you I would pick a B18c5, or an H22. Also you might want to look into a cylinder head swaps for the b18 series block. For those prices you should call around.
Old 06-Jan-2005 | 04:43 PM
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why do you want vtec?
Old 06-Jan-2005 | 08:47 PM
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vtec is gay, imo..... It doesn't reall do all tat much....If i got to do my swap all over again, and loose the vtec, but have a car w/crazy torque....
Old 06-Jan-2005 | 09:01 PM
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i donno why i want vtec, i just want it, and i have researched around, and h22 are to heavy, and i dont have that much money for a b18c5, and i dont know where to call around, thats why im asking, maybe you guys could give me a rough estimate.
Old 06-Jan-2005 | 09:16 PM
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go b18C....b16s r weak.....all u'll be hearin is revvin....but u wont go anywhere
Old 06-Jan-2005 | 09:19 PM
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alright, i donno if it was this thread or some other one but some guy said that b16s take a lot to get them going, so b18c it is, but i have anouther question tell me if im close in guess what this will cost me...
1. EG shell - $1000-1500
2.b18c - $3500
3.installation - $1000
Old 06-Jan-2005 | 10:05 PM
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yo, my buddy mite be sellin his eg, w/a b18c n integra interior....for like 7500, w/N1 full cat n DC headers n much more.... if u dun have the car yet, i have the perfect 1 for u....its ****in crazy
Old 06-Jan-2005 | 10:10 PM
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yes thats sounds awsome, you got msn??? and i dont have any of what i listed yet, sounds like a mint car. but ya if you got msn mine is Special_Blend_05@hotmail.com
Old 06-Jan-2005 | 10:15 PM
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i still think you would be better off with a B20z in an eg hatch. GSR motor is nice but still for the street a B20z i think is the best stock motor.
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 12:10 PM
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lol

Originally posted by Pimpin-EL
vtec is gay, imo..... It doesn't reall do all tat much....If i got to do my swap all over again, and loose the vtec, but have a car w/crazy torque....
yeah, o.k. the fastest H cars have vtec. end of story. yeah, you can make non-v motors fast, but, at the expense of your wallet. the b20 is nice, but, not with an ls tranny. if you go b20, you have to either obtain a gsr or sir tranny to enjoy it.....but, good luck sitting on the 401 with an SiR tranny traveling at 130kmh, with your tach licking 5000rpm. its not fun when you only have 16-1800 more revs before fuel cut off. b18c5's are overrated. don't waste your money, your better off buying a non r spec jdm b18c than the c5. lastly, for all of those b16 owners that say that they are weak...i think that its your heavy *** car and less than stellar set up that is weak. the 16 is not as bad as poeple think. now, back to the original question...b16, for the simple fact the the 17 is 9.7/1 c.r (half a point lower than a 1st gen 16 and .7 less than a jdm 2nd gen 16) and to get it any higher you'll have to either shave the head and buy cam gears to zero the cam timing in,or, rebuild the block. i've found 17 to feel really soft down low, worse than the 16 in fact. here is a hint for all of the 16 haters, buy the lightest flywheel you can find and then give me a review on the 16. i've beat up a good amount of 18c'd egs with my 16. yes, it was modded, but, the races weren't even close. a good set up makes up for a more expensive, larger displacement engine with no set up. remember that.
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 12:15 PM
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hmmmm

Originally posted by Pimpin-EL
go b18C....b16s r weak.....all u'll be hearin is revvin....but u wont go anywhere
then maybe you should sell your 16 and spend the extra $3.5K and buy an 18c to go 3 tenths faster? come on man, 18c's are weak. if you are talking real power then you'll have to go lsv or crv (yeah, yeah, K series ivtec is the bomb, but, i'm sure we aren't looking to spend $10K on a swap) now, that's power, and, its still cheaper to build than buying a jdm 18c.
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 01:35 PM
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with some simple mods a b16 can be quite a potent little engine....ask mpower he knows as well as i know that b16's have lots of potential. Do some headwork, throw some big cams and stiff springs in and raise the compression a bit and a b16 can outrun any B-series out there. Trust me i know first hand and trust Mpower too he knows his stuff.
.....waiting for b16civic to chime in and see what he has to say.....
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 02:41 PM
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I sure hope you know what is vtec and how does it work.

For some places to call around just check in the yellows pages or google search.


Originally posted by B16_EG
i donno why i want vtec, i just want it, and i have researched around, and h22 are to heavy, and i dont have that much money for a b18c5, and i dont know where to call around, thats why im asking, maybe you guys could give me a rough estimate.
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 03:09 PM
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ive already made my choice, and im going with the b18c, thanx for the help, and yes i will be modding, i cant just stop at a swap and thats it, lol
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 04:17 PM
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If you're gonna mod it, why not buy a nice B20Z (it has a bit more hp) and then save up for a while and get Concepts on Wheels to add a VTEC head and tune it up...then you would have the best of both worlds...Just my opinion.
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 04:18 PM
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he's made his choice...

but i don't think he has a car yet to put it in.
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 04:24 PM
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lol ya i made my choice, im just looking for a EG shell, anyone know where i can pick up a decent/good one??
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 04:28 PM
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hmm i donno who that is, ill try and find the name and pm them, thanx
Old 07-Jan-2005 | 08:16 PM
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Re: hmmmm

Originally posted by m power


then maybe you should sell your 16 and spend the extra $3.5K and buy an 18c to go 3 tenths faster? come on man, 18c's are weak. if you are talking real power then you'll have to go lsv or crv (yeah, yeah, K series ivtec is the bomb, but, i'm sure we aren't looking to spend $10K on a swap) now, that's power, and, its still cheaper to build than buying a jdm 18c.
I kno wat u mean by the price....ppl told me tat its not much faster the b18c, n i was on a tite budget, so i went b16....but afta drivin my buddies b18c hatch, i totoally lost it....the car felt like it was gonna be flyin soon....
Old 09-Jan-2005 | 10:14 AM
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i gotta a b18b in my eg hatch it's a lotta fun with a short hear box. i have a s1 cable tranny and it pulls. I work for a Acura dealer and all the techs think its got more pull than a type S. (wish i can get a 6 speed though) only problem i have is with the s1 tranny i get ****ty gas mileage. most people go on highway to save gas. but highway kills my gas mileage. by the way i get this without any other mods except dc sports headers and stk exhaust the rest. 1 on 1 against a 2005 type s i left it from 0-100kms but after that on highway the "s" can go faster cause i already running 7 grand at 160 km\h. for me no-vtec all the way.


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