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Old 05-Mar-2003 | 03:06 PM
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It might be used a bit in the winter but I hopefully will get a beater next winter. The car wont be used for autocross or course racing. Probably just spirited daily driving and possibly some racing. So far I am seeing KYB's with H&R springs or Koni's with H&R?
Old 05-Mar-2003 | 06:40 PM
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My Blue Si, we again Well, you have to know what you're buying...progressive or constant rate springs. If you don't know the difference, then you shouldn't be lowering your car. You have to understand what you will realistically use your car for, then go from there. I've been through 4 suspensions to find the one I like.... I have H&R coilovers now.
very true, nice choice on the setup, wish I had the money for those coils :cry:

scarlemthug I would go with the Koni's and H&R combo. That's a very nice setup and you will not be disappointed. I would also suggest saving a bit of cash and grab a camber kit
Old 05-Mar-2003 | 06:54 PM
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Yeah im for sure gonna get a camber kit just because I dont wanna take any chances with having to buy new tires all the time. How much would that setup cost me?
Old 05-Mar-2003 | 09:54 PM
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hey what about tokico shocks?
Old 06-Mar-2003 | 09:19 AM
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i heard tokico is one of the best
Old 06-Mar-2003 | 09:51 AM
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Old 06-Mar-2003 | 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
you heard wrong...

just paint your stock shocks blue (same thing)
Old 06-Mar-2003 | 01:17 PM
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I run Koni reds with H+R sports on my 6th Gen and I am very haooy with them ....
Old 06-Mar-2003 | 05:07 PM
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With 17 inch rims what would be a the lowest logical drop without running into fender rubbing and bottoming out etc?
Old 06-Mar-2003 | 11:41 PM
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Unless you go with *really* big rims, the rims don't have a bearing on how much you can lower as long as the wheel width, tire size, and wheel offset are chosen correctly.
Old 07-Mar-2003 | 04:24 AM
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It all depends on where you're going to be using your car. Coilovers tend to offer a harsh ride in comparison to lowering springs because the lowering springs are generally a progressive rate spring whereas the coilovers are a single rate. Coilovers are really more suited to track applications (more adjustable).

Experts correct me at any time.
You can get progressive/dual rate coilovers as well.

They are called "EURO COILOVERS", They also have diffent names as well. Ractive sells them, as well as other companies.




Old 07-Mar-2003 | 11:56 AM
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How bout for a daily driver? What kind of coils should be used? Are those ones that pulovr posted coilover sleeves?
Old 07-Mar-2003 | 12:17 PM
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If you are going to buy coilover sleeves (what PULOVR posted), I wouldn't buy anything other than Ground Control or Skunk2.

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How bout for a daily driver? What kind of coils should be used? Are those ones that pulovr posted coilover sleeves?
Old 08-Mar-2003 | 12:28 PM
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What would the correct width, tire size and offset to get for a 98 civic coupe? I want to drop the car low but I want to be able to get over most speed bumps. This would be with 17 inch rims. What suspension setup would you recommend?
Old 08-Mar-2003 | 02:14 PM
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I would recommend a 17x7 +45 with 205/40/17 rubber. Keep in mind a 205/40/17 tire from one company may be just slightly larger than a 205/40/17 from another. You should be okay though.

Originally posted by scarlemthug
What would the correct width, tire size and offset to get for a 98 civic coupe? I want to drop the car low but I want to be able to get over most speed bumps. This would be with 17 inch rims. What suspension setup would you recommend?
Old 08-Mar-2003 | 03:53 PM
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OK thanx man
Old 08-Mar-2003 | 03:56 PM
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whats the difference between R1 coil sleeves and ground control? Both wear out your shocks faster than normal. Whats the difference? ride quality and bouncyness?
Old 09-Mar-2003 | 02:32 AM
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They are basically the same.......you pay for the "name".

I have installed BOTH sets......I've seen the quality of BOTH of them.......so in my opinoin, I can honestly say......save your money, and get the R1's......use the money you saved, and put it towards a good set of aftermarket shocks. They BOTH seize up if you don't coat them with a protective greese/film.......they both look the same. (at least the newer GC ones do......when compared to the R1's.......right down to the ring........only diff......GC has the "<--Down.........Up-->" on the gold ring, along with the logo.......the R1's don't.
Old 09-Mar-2003 | 02:45 AM
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Here.....you tell me the diff.

Ground control.....



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R1's......



The limited edition GC ones, that everyone has seen in the car mags for $299 US, have the exact same ring as the R1's. (a little different than the older CG ones.)

I have the ad right here in front of me...........hold on, I'll take a pic of the page......
Old 09-Mar-2003 | 03:18 AM
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Here's the page.....

If I had the money to blow, I'd get the GC too.......but ALOT of people can't jutify thier cost....therefore, they get cheaper ones.

The end result is the same. A nice low car.






I'm not telling people NOT to get the CG......but in the end, they both do the same thing.


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