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Old 09-Jan-2003 | 01:40 PM
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Cool Tein coil-over

can someone recommend a place that i can get tein coilover installed or with out installation for a good price?? thanx
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 01:42 PM
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btw, i own a 96 gsr
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 01:43 PM
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Old 09-Jan-2003 | 01:43 PM
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KHF - Kennedy Hifi is an authorized Tien dealer
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 02:26 PM
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I've seen a set at SpeedStyle in Ottawa, the price tag was
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$3800 + install Not sure which model it was, but I sure as hell hope they were RA
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 03:26 PM
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that price is whacked..
even the Gen 7's are only $1250 US
add install sure, say maybe $300??

that's fooked..
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 03:27 PM
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oh, and according to Tein's site.. AW is also an authorized dealer
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Si Veloz
that price is whacked..
even the Gen 7's are only $1250 US
add install sure, say maybe $300??

that's fooked..
looking at the cheap Tein, are ya ricer? Just want the green shocks peekin from underneith yer ride, huh?

I think the model there was the top top top of the line Tein RA which sells for like $22-24 hundred USD.
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 03:41 PM
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looking at the cheap Tein, are ya ricer? Just want the green shocks peekin from underneith yer ride, huh?

I think the model there was the top top top of the line Tein RA which sells for like $22-24 hundred USD.
looking at what is available..
SS version..

HONDA Civic (Coupe,Sedan)
EM2/ES1 01+ SS DSA22-KUSS2
$1250.00 6/336
SB060-01200 8/448
SA080-01150 +2.0
112 ~ -2.0
-112 +2.0
112 ~ -2.0
-112 None -45
-1.8 -46
-1.8 -28
-1.1 ~ -68
-2.7 -30
-1.2 ~ -96
-3.8

ricer..ppfftttt..see if i let ya help with my car now..LOL
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Si Veloz


looking at what is available..
SS version..

HONDA Civic (Coupe,Sedan)
EM2/ES1 01+ SS DSA22-KUSS2
$1250.00 6/336
ricer..ppfftttt..see if i let ya help with my car now..LOL
IMHO, I think that Teins are played out and over done. I was looking at Teins for my application, but to be honest, I liked the H&Rs better since the H&Rs have a solid body that's billet, not like the welded construction of the tein. I'm sure they're hella nice, but I worry about welds becoming weak spots under extreme use. Right now I love my H&Rs. But if I were to step it up another notch, I'd do Fightex or Ohlin's.

I didn't mean it like that I just think ppl toss the ricer term around, so I thought I'd give it a shot. Clearly misapplied in this case C'mon, Civic 6th and 7th generation group hug LOL
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 03:53 PM
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group hug, hahahahaha ( sorry i have no participation in this thread cause i know nadda )
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo


IMHO, I think that Teins are played out and over done. I was looking at Teins for my application, but to be honest, I liked the H&Rs better since the H&Rs have a solid body that's billet, not like the welded construction of the tein. I'm sure they're hella nice, but I worry about welds becoming weak spots under extreme use. Right now I love my H&Rs. But if I were to step it up another notch, I'd do Fightex or Ohlin's.

I didn't mean it like that I just think ppl toss the ricer term around, so I thought I'd give it a shot. Clearly misapplied in this case C'mon, Civic 6th and 7th generation group hug LOL
yer psycho!!

anyways, with a gen7 i have 2 choices..
Koni Yellows but i have to destroy my original strut to use theirs (steering link) or the Tein..
so for about another 50% in price i'd be getting a fully adjustable (x16) coil setup that are drop in, no fookin' around
Yellows give me 4 dampening settings only, no height adjustment and if i ever need to go back stock for some reason i have to replace 1 strut to do so..

k, quick , then go away..LOL

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Juss you wait for Progress to come out with their product ... Competition Coilovers for 7th gens. I have a lot of respect for their products as well, pretty decent for street/track use. Koni has been very good for the double wishbones, but I would not be getting them for a McPhearson strut car. Don't get caught up in the JDM aspect of Tein like most ppl. In fact I think all good spring and dampening technology in fact comes from the Germans (and associated countries), like Koni, Bilstein, H&R, Eibach are all from Europe. Only Tokico is from Japan, as far as I know off the top of my head. And Monroe from North America
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 04:37 PM
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i don't wanna wait 4ever tho
spring is comin' and stockies are gonna give out eventually..

i'll wait for a bit and see what else comes out..(sooner da better tho imo..)
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Originally posted by Si Veloz
i don't wanna wait 4ever tho
spring is comin' and stockies are gonna give out eventually..

i'll wait for a bit and see what else comes out..(sooner da better tho imo..)
"good things come to those who wait" but then again

"hesitation leads to ************"

So what's it gonna be
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 06:51 PM
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I have the TEIN HA's on my EG and my BB1. If you have never owned a set then go buy them youll love them. They are the BEST and they are sweet looking too.....plus that little key thingy they give you is a nice part to show your friends. As for install it shouldnt be anymore than $100 for the teins and whatever for the allinment
Old 09-Jan-2003 | 08:25 PM
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I have HA's on my MR2. If I were to do it again, I'd just get a shock/spring combo. I didn't find that the HA's were worth the extra money.
Old 10-Jan-2003 | 10:05 PM
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after i lowered the car by 1.5 inches. with H&R and Koni shock. can i jack the car height back to orginal in the winter?? thanx
Old 10-Jan-2003 | 10:07 PM
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with the H&R with Koni of course. i heard the koni have 3 adjustment. is there any harm to the car??
Old 10-Jan-2003 | 11:17 PM
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Is the original post talking about the coilover system or just the springs?

If you are jsut getting springs, it is not worth the money. The shocks does more work, that is why their are often called dampers. They absorb loads, springs basically keeps you car up. If you want looks, go with any good springs; Eibach, H&R....etc.....
If you want performance, you need to spend time to tune your own car, know one here can give you a winning formula, because we do not know your driving pattern, style or techniques. There are more to suspensions then springs and shocks. My uncle said to setup the car for different tracks and condidtions, take it from a race engineer from Macau, he works for TRD.

If you are interested, here is why I said what I said:
Lowered springs with no shock mods will not neccessary give you the best performance on the streets, because the streets have alot of bumps, if you choice to race on the streets, you will likely go airborne. If your tires are not on the ground, then there are no tractions. The dampers does not act responsively to to springs.

You need to consider that not all car have the same suspension setup: Focus, Sentra, Mazada and other small cars have torsion beams, therfore, lowering the car likely be better for corners, I will beat anyone that wants to dispute this statement, not joking.
Civic has double wishbones, front and back, like bbarbulo said. This design lets the car go into negative camber in corners, which is not as strong as the torsion, since torsion is a huge straight bar in the back (less chasis bend, less body roll).

Also consider oversteer and understeer, lowering the tire pressure(s) in the back would acheive this. If you are racing on an oval track, then you would usually lower only one tire pressure.

Stablizer bar's seizes also does the same thing. There are also chasis stiffness bar system, only seen it in Jap. Basically, it is a whole lot of bars under the car to make it super stiff underneath.

So, that only leaves one problem, what about the rest of the body? The top portion is not as stiff as the bottom, which gives it an unbalance weight shift.

So, back to springs......... it does help, but stiffer is better.

Something to think about:
Rally cars ------------> $500,000+ US, around $70,000(-) for the engine mod, quess where the other amounts is for.


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